AK with some heat worth a fold?
 

2-4 NL effective stacks 600 I way cover
Hero is in the BB with AK off

UTG+1 (laggy very agressive player) makes it 12 to go
MP reraises and makes it 25 to go

I re-reraise and make it 75 to go
UTG+1 makes it 200 to go
MP folds to me....

Pot is now 300 and its 140 for me to call....

I can't call this right?
Comments on my re-reraise welcome to.

Re: AK with some heat worth a fold?
 

I hate being OOP with AKo. If this is full ring, just call and get to the flop. 6-max, I probably still call, but your re-raise isn't as bad. You have to fold to the 4-bet. Your best case is a horse race against QQ. You know what the worst case is.......

Re: AK with some heat worth a fold?
 

Im not sure if i like the 3bet oop against 2 opponents even if it is against a lag. You need the ahnds you beat to stay in the hand and extract chips from them [ex. AQ] but it's extremely unlikely for him to be holding that hand, so i believe it's either QQ [race] or your badly dominated.

Re: AK with some heat worth a fold?
 

This sounds insane, But Id rather be all in then just calling this. If its a race, you have odds. And are not stuck with just a 35% of connecting on the flop and playing the hand OOP.

Id push or fold. Works at my tiny stakes, probably bad advice at your level.

Edit: I just re-read the post and realized he put in a 3rd raise here. I would lay this down, he has to assume you have a monster, doing this with anything less the AA or KK would be crazy.

Re: AK with some heat worth a fold?
 

I cant see villan doing this with anything less then AA or KK.
If you fold and he shows QQ then mark him as a donk and move on but he's giving you so much warning in advance that i would take it and lay my hand down.

Re: AK with some heat worth a fold?
 

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I don't think this is always true. Think of how hany times you've seen a super LAG and some guy "making-a-stand" in a raising war preflop. The guy "making-a-stand then turns over KQs and the super LAG shows AJ. I've seen it enough to make this a tough fold.

Results and another scenario if interested....
 

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he has to assume you have a monster,

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I don't think this is always true. Think of how hany times you've seen a super LAG and some guy "making-a-stand" in a raising war preflop. The guy "making-a-stand then turns over KQs and the super LAG shows AJ. I've seen it enough to make this a tough fold.

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I folded. But an interesting question I pondered was would it have been worth the call if MP + 1 called the re-re raise? That would have been his all in and there would have been 420 in the pot?

Re: AK with some heat worth a fold?
 

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2-4 NL effective stacks 600 I way cover
Hero is in the BB with AK off

UTG+1 (laggy very agressive player) makes it 12 to go
MP reraises and makes it 25 to go

I re-reraise and make it 75 to go
UTG+1 makes it 200 to go
MP folds to me....

Pot is now 300 and its 140 for me to call....

I can't call this right?
Comments on my re-reraise welcome to.

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I think you need to dump it here. You only have 75 invested and UTG+1 has shown a great deal of strength he was reraised twice and then came back over the top of both of you (you know this players better than we do, what range of hands is he capable of doing this with?).

I personally hate this spot with AKo, you have an unsuited drawing hand in a large pot OOP, which in my experience doesn't usually work out that well.

Re: AK with some heat worth a fold?
 

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he has to assume you have a monster,

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I don't think this is always true. Think of how hany times you've seen a super LAG and some guy "making-a-stand" in a raising war preflop. The guy "making-a-stand then turns over KQs and the super LAG shows AJ. I've seen it enough to make this a tough fold.

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Excellent point.