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gildwulf 11-08-2005 01:56 AM

22: battle of the blinds, Idiot straight
 
Opponent is solid but tight-weak on bubble. Who folds, who raises turn for free show down and folds to 3-bet, etc.

***** Hand History for Game 3000766571 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:17232270 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Tuesday, November 08, 00:50:46 EDT 2005
Table Table 67566 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: gildwulf ( $2410 )
Seat 5: frukinfrush ( $715 )
Seat 7: frenchstart ( $2145 )
Seat 9: Iam_terrible ( $680 )
Seat 10: ProAngler20 ( $2050 )
Trny:17232270 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to gildwulf [ Jc 7d ]
frukinfrush folds.
frenchstart folds.
Iam_terrible folds.
ProAngler20 calls [50].
gildwulf checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, Tc, 9h ]
ProAngler20 bets [100].
gildwulf raises [300].
ProAngler20 calls [200].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
ProAngler20 bets [250].
gildwulf calls [250].
** Dealing River ** [ 3h ]
ProAngler20 bets [350].
gildwulf calls [350].

J-Lo 11-08-2005 02:07 AM

Re: 22: battle of the blinds, Idiot straight
 
w/ stacks this deep, i play it same

Doc 11-08-2005 10:24 AM

Re: 22: battle of the blinds, Idiot straight
 
I need help on this one, if he is weak tight, do you think he is trying to get a free card?

I probably fold this along the way, can someone explain the thinking behind the streets on this one?

Doc

durron597 11-08-2005 10:40 AM

Re: 22: battle of the blinds, Idiot straight
 
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Opponent is solid but tight-weak on bubble. Who folds, who raises turn for free show down and folds to 3-bet, etc.

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He's tight weak on the bubble but raises the turn for a free showdown? How does that work?

I raise the flop for more and fold the turn, if he really is tight-weak.

HesseJam 11-08-2005 10:58 AM

Re: 22: battle of the blinds, Idiot straight
 
[ QUOTE ]
Opponent is solid but tight-weak on bubble. Who folds, who raises turn for free show down and folds to 3-bet, etc.

***** Hand History for Game 3000766571 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:17232270 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Tuesday, November 08, 00:50:46 EDT 2005
Table Table 67566 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: gildwulf ( $2410 )
Seat 5: frukinfrush ( $715 )
Seat 7: frenchstart ( $2145 )
Seat 9: Iam_terrible ( $680 )
Seat 10: ProAngler20 ( $2050 )
Trny:17232270 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to gildwulf [ Jc 7d ]
frukinfrush folds.
frenchstart folds.
Iam_terrible folds.
ProAngler20 calls [50].
gildwulf checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, Tc, 9h ]
ProAngler20 bets [100].
gildwulf raises [300].
ProAngler20 calls [200].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
ProAngler20 bets [250].
gildwulf calls [250].
** Dealing River ** [ 3h ]
ProAngler20 bets [350].
gildwulf calls [350].

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmm, tough hand. I am prone to play the same. If you see the hand in it's totality it doesn't look too good though.

However, if I split it into the streets, I like the reraise on the flop.

I am not too sure about the call on the turn. Hmm you have the Idiot straight, so it could be that you are putting in 250 to pull back your 400 or you are putting in 250 to add to your losses or you call down a bluff. A bluff is not very likely. I dunno.

On the river he puts in another raise. I think you are beat here. But it is tough to lay down. But you probably should.

I think you have to tip your hat to villain's play here. He really made it tough on all post flop streets.

gildwulf 11-08-2005 11:28 AM

Re: 22: battle of the blinds, Idiot straight
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Opponent is solid but tight-weak on bubble. Who folds, who raises turn for free show down and folds to 3-bet, etc.

[/ QUOTE ]

He's tight weak on the bubble but raises the turn for a free showdown? How does that work?

I raise the flop for more and fold the turn, if he really is tight-weak.

[/ QUOTE ]

No, no, I was asking who would fold, who would raise the flop (i.e. the people on 2+2), who would raise the turn...

durron597 11-08-2005 11:40 AM

Re: 22: battle of the blinds, Idiot straight
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Opponent is solid but tight-weak on bubble. Who folds, who raises turn for free show down and folds to 3-bet, etc.

[/ QUOTE ]

He's tight weak on the bubble but raises the turn for a free showdown? How does that work?

I raise the flop for more and fold the turn, if he really is tight-weak.

[/ QUOTE ]

No, no, I was asking who would fold, who would raise the flop (i.e. the people on 2+2), who would raise the turn...

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Man, I really can't read today. Yeah, against a tight opponent here I raise the flop for more and fold the turn if he leads into me again. If he checks the turn I would call a river bet.

11-08-2005 11:54 AM

Re: 22: battle of the blinds, Idiot straight
 
No way do I fold this river. He will not have a straight here a lot of the time.

durron597 11-08-2005 11:56 AM

Re: 22: battle of the blinds, Idiot straight
 
[ QUOTE ]
No way do I fold this river. He will not have a straight here a lot of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]

If he's tight-weak?

gildwulf 11-08-2005 12:37 PM

Re: 22: battle of the blinds, Idiot straight
 
The reason I didn't fold the river is pretty simple....if I fold I have 18BB. If I call I have 15BB...not much of a difference at this blind structure. If I chop or win though I have 24-30BB....this is a huge difference and allows me to accumulate a lot more chips on the bubble through aggressive play. This will be compounded by the presence of two very short stacks.

It's pretty close though I think...


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