60k in 60 days, days 1 and 2
 

well first per the other thread, i don't give a flying [censored] what forum it is in. i almost posted here to start, but honestly i was pretty pissed having my post/my presence on the forum pushed aside, and i was going to say some things. however, it seems the that was not josh's intentions and so whatever, no foul i guess. thanks to all the people i know/have played with for saying something tho.

on to the quest. well i guess the next matter was i do intend to post updates, i just was not sure if there would be any interest in reading them. it seems like there is so i will. i was going to give a bunch of background in here but i think i will save it for the next update, b/c i am pretty tierd and don't want to half ass it or go though the info half way.

so anyways, the first two days were not bad. i have played 2-3k hands in a day many times before so i was not conerned about getting used to playing a lot of hands in a day or playing a long session. but i usaully play twice a day once in the morning or afternoon and once at night. well tonight and yesterday i did not get to put in that first session and so i played 2k hands str8 though both nights, which kinda sucked. i did feel as crisp or sharp at the end of either session so i am going to really try to break it up from now on.

i didn't really have any intesting hands from day one, but just a general comment -- these guys suck. a lot. i know as soon as i say that i won't win again but the level of pay was totally horrible. i mean i am just amazed at how bad they play. i used to play these games, and then i moved on and now coming back i just think wow, this is amazing.

today i ran pretty bad, just the usual, lots of river 3 outters and turned two pair, the usaul bs. but i had 1 semi interesting hand that adresses a point i am trying to work on.

2nd hand at a table i get A7o in the sb, folded to me i raise and the BB calls.

flop is 568r
i bet he raises i call.

turn is a Q
i check, call.

River is a K
I check, call.

I am really not sure about the river. i am getting about 7-1 to call, so he only has to have a 7 or whatever a little of the time for the call to be right, but i am not sure. it may also be one of those it is so close it doesn't matter spots, but i am not sure. but that brings me to a major issue i am trying to work on, not calling down with A hi. I am better about it right now but a few months ago I found myself calling down with A hi all the time and in some bad spots. it comes from playing very short handed on ub and getting into this rytham of going to the river with any showdownable hand, which is prolly a mistake as well, but that is a different game and topic. however, there are also lots of spots where people are obv. taking shots at you or could be and so you need to call down there, and i don't want to miss those spots or become weak. so that is one of my main thrusts for the challegen, to work on that.

anouther breif issue, the number of tables, i play between 4 and 6 and you get so many more hands in with 6 tables but i really don't think i play quite as well and i think it fries my brain faster, so i am not sure what i want to do. you guys have any thougths on the number of tables if i am going to be playing a lot everyday for the next two months? i know it is kinda an indiv. thing but any thought would be helpful.

anyways i will stop rambling. these are the stats so far

Day 1: 1925 hands +1633
Day 2: 1806 hands -456

so i am running behind on hands and money. so i am going to try to get 3000 hands in tommrow to work on both and give me some cusion for the weekend.
dave

Re: 60k in 60 days, days 1 and 2
 

As per the hand you include, if you want to invest a bet on this river, i would donk it. I think the value of getting hands like 44, 57, 67 to incorrectly fold is more valuable than inducing a bluff from a naked 7. You might also run into a "solid player who doesnt pay off" who will fold an 8 from time to time. Best of luck on your quest.

Gabe

Re: 60k in 60 days, days 1 and 2
 

Yes. Work on winning more money. You suck at that.

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Re: 60k in 60 days, days 1 and 2
 

do you really think anyone will fold any of those hands? i don't think i have seen anyone fold a pair on the river for one bet in like, ever. i mean i may be wrong but i just don't see it happening, am i missing something?
dave

Re: 60k in 60 days, days 1 and 2
 

In all honesty dave, i think you need to remember you are playing 10-20 and not 150-300. These players think playing is good is folding when they are "clearly beat because what would you donk on this river that you raised PF that doesnt beat 67" whereas you are used to playing against players who know how wide your range is and autocall any pair on the river. Just food for thought... ( i dont get that saying [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img])

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In all honesty dave, i think you need to remember you are playing 10-20 and not 150-300. These players think playing is good is folding when they are "clearly beat because what would you donk on this river that you raised PF that doesnt beat 67" whereas you are used to playing against players who know how wide your range is and autocall any pair on the river.

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totally disagree...
the players in the PP10/20 FVCKIGN SUCK... they are incredibly horrible. the majority of them will call river w/ A2.

Re: 60k in 60 days, days 1 and 2
 

In some cases, the fact that they is because they make bad folds not understanding their hand strength relative to the baord IMO. I'm saying this unequivocally, but i'm pretty sure my line is worth thinking about.

Re: 60k in 60 days, days 1 and 2
 

Dave, just wanted to say that I've been struggling recently online and your challenge post has helped me out. I know it's not your goal, but I'm making a commitment to dropping down and playing 50K hands just to straighten out any leaks and stay focused. It sucks playing below levels you're used to and setting up a challenge to do so makes it easier to stick with.

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In all honesty dave, i think you need to remember you are playing 10-20 and not 150-300. These players think playing is good is folding when they are "clearly beat because what would you donk on this river that you raised PF that doesnt beat 67" whereas you are used to playing against players who know how wide your range is and autocall any pair on the river.

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totally disagree...
the players in the PP10/20 FVCKIGN SUCK... they are incredibly horrible. the majority of them will call river w/ A2.

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i played 10/20 for a couple of weeks in november and in about 10k hands i was called by 3 high (22 on double paired board), 9 high on a paired board, and 7 high on an unpaired board. neither of the latter two were playing the board

its a great game to go back to to regroup

Re: 60k in 60 days, days 1 and 2
 

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As per the hand you include, if you want to invest a bet on this river, i would donk it. I think the value of getting hands like 44, 57, 67 to incorrectly fold is more valuable than inducing a bluff from a naked 7. You might also run into a "solid player who doesnt pay off" who will fold an 8 from time to time. Best of luck on your quest.

Gabe

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there is a nearly 0 chance he folds any pair to a donk here. even most 2ers in this game arent folding here.