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tigerite 12-29-2005 12:28 PM

Re: $55: I raise preflop, 2 callers + allin BB (shortstacked). I miss
 
Well I don't see how pushing a flop into two opponents - one of whom is known to be very loose anyway - is going to be +$EV when we have 14BB behind, a guy on less than 1BB already all in on this flop and a guy on 8BB and the bubble next hand? If the situation after this hand were different, I might agree. It just seems that the future position will be much better than risking it all with AJ on a 522r flop here.

Vuron00 12-29-2005 12:38 PM

Re: $55: I raise preflop, 2 callers + allin BB (shortstacked). I miss
 
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I'd check personally.

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Why?

Doesn't it seem like we have the best hand?

Are we check/folding this?

Seems like a good pot going to waste when we have a decent hand and a decent size pot (giving us 1/2 addition to our stack if we push and they fold).

Basically what we need is for button not to wake up with A5/K5/K2/Q2/Q5/J5/J2, and CO to have a hand like 55+ for us to get called.

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What hands do you put CO and Button on? The 2 stacks that can cripple or eliminate you flat called your UTG raise with position. I think it's likely that one of both have a small-mid PP and will call your push in this situation.

To answer your questions, I don't think we have the best hand here, and I would probably check/fold and still be in great shape for bubble play. You can't make a decent CB without committing yourself and I don't like a push here with 2 big stacks behind me.

12-29-2005 01:21 PM

Re: $55: I raise preflop, 2 callers + allin BB (shortstacked). I miss
 
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Well I don't see how pushing a flop into two opponents - one of whom is known to be very loose anyway - is going to be +$EV when we have 14BB behind, a guy on less than 1BB already all in on this flop and a guy on 8BB and the bubble next hand? If the situation after this hand were different, I might agree. It just seems that the future position will be much better than risking it all with AJ on a 522r flop here.

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Spot on !

12-29-2005 01:51 PM

Re: $55: I raise preflop, 2 callers + allin BB (shortstacked). I miss
 
I prefer check-fold myself. Seems to me that most hands that have you beat would call you and most hands that you have beat will fold. Not good.


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