Why is Hellmuth so bad at cash games????
 

We all know how good he is in tourney play. There is no question about that and he's having a good WSOP so far, but why oh why is he so bad at cash games?? What is the definitive reason. I believe I read once that Negreanu said he lacks a fundamental knowledge of the cards which I find hard to believe. Is is that difficult to be good at both??

Re: Why is Hellmuth so bad at cash games????
 

Phil is a horrible steamer.
When you steam in a tournament, the worst you can do is lose your buy in. When you steam in a cash game, you can lose big time.

The big game players like Todd Brunson can take beats. Did you see him lose with AA vs AT all in preflop that time on tv? It was like it was no big deal to him. If Hellmuth ever took a beat like that, we'd never hear the end of it.

Re: Why is Hellmuth so bad at cash games????
 

If you watch the heads up championship or any hellmuth game he seems to have a case of table coach denial.
"oh yeah keep going in as 3:1 dog against me"
when the other player was about 55:45 dog

He's a very good player but self denial can cost you when you sit with the same people for a looooong time in a cash game.

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Wow- so you think it mostly comes down to steam control and not his lack of knowledge of cash game strategy vs tourney strategy. Makes sense.... I can't believe Negreanu's statement could be even close to being correct.

Re: Why is Hellmuth so bad at cash games????
 

Negraneau may have also been refering to the fact that Phil is not respected in any game besides hold em.

Re: Why is Hellmuth so bad at cash games????
 

Could it be because donkeys always draw?

Kevin...

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Could it be because donkey's always draw?

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Could it be because donkey's always draw?

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Wrong. Stop being a nit.

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Wow- so you think it mostly comes down to steam control and not his lack of knowledge of cash game strategy vs tourney strategy. Makes sense.... I can't believe Negreanu's statement could be even close to being correct.

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And what did Danny-boy have to say?

Re: Why is Hellmuth so bad at cash games????
 

Well, like I said, I rememember him writing or saying via online chat that he lacks a fundamental knowledge of cards for cash games. Something along those lines. I definitely remember the "fundamental knowledge" line which took me by surprise. Seems the steam factor would be huge, but it just surprises me that someone of his "world class" status can't handle beats as they are a regular part of the game. Back to the shirtless ninja moves for him eh????