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mscags 11-30-2005 05:38 PM

6-12 Stud Hi
 
Alright, so taking Jeff's advice about the stud games on euro being super soft I took a shot at the 6-12 game. Let me know what you guys think. No reads on anyone as this is only about my tenth hand or so

50cent ante $3 BI 6-12 Limit

Third Street

Seat1 XX 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Folds
Seat2 XX K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Completes___Calls
Seat3 XX Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Folds
Seat4 XX 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Calls___Calls
Hero K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Raises
Seat6 XX A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Folds
Seat7 XX 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Brings In Folds

Fourth Street

Seat2 XX K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Raises
Seat4 XX 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Calls
Hero K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Bets___Calls

Fifth Street

Seat2 XX K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Raises
Seat4 XX 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Calls
Hero K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Bets___Calls

Sixth Street

Seat2 XX K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Bets
Seat4 XX 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Calls
Hero K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Calls

Seventh

Seat2 XX K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] X Bets
Seat4 XX 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] X Calls
Hero K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Folds

Roland 11-30-2005 05:42 PM

Re: 6-12 Stud Hi
 
Looks just fine to me.

jon_1van 11-30-2005 05:56 PM

Re: 6-12 Stud Hi
 
3-bet 4th.

mscags 11-30-2005 05:58 PM

Re: 6-12 Stud Hi
 
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3-bet 4th.

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That was my main question about this hand. After the other seat called two cold though I def put him on a flush draw and wasn't sure if it was correct to pump the pot on fourth or not. THoughts?

blumpkin22 11-30-2005 06:07 PM

Re: 6-12 Stud Hi
 
I like the smooth call 4th, donk bet fifth line much better than reraising 4th, even though the hearts are so dead that I am not scared of Seat 4 at all.

As for Seat 2's aggressive play, I've seen this before in that 6/12 game from people overplaying their hand. I think you have every reason to believe aces up will win the hand. The only thing I'd be afraid of is him having the case two aces.

Roland 11-30-2005 06:08 PM

Re: 6-12 Stud Hi
 
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3-bet 4th.

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That was my main question about this hand. After the other seat called two cold though I def put him on a flush draw and wasn't sure if it was correct to pump the pot on fourth or not. THoughts?

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I would have to run some sims but he can’t have that much equity with only five hearts left.
I’d be inclined to think he’s in there with some crappy pair though. Since seat 2 is possibly aggro enough to raise 5th without two pairs you’d like to give him a chance to do it; if you 3-bet 4th he might not.

mscags 11-30-2005 08:24 PM

Re: 6-12 Stud Hi
 
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3-bet 4th.

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That was my main question about this hand. After the other seat called two cold though I def put him on a flush draw and wasn't sure if it was correct to pump the pot on fourth or not. THoughts?

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I would have to run some sims but he can’t have that much equity with only five hearts left.
I’d be inclined to think he’s in there with some crappy pair though. Since seat 2 is possibly aggro enough to raise 5th without two pairs you’d like to give him a chance to do it; if you 3-bet 4th he might not.

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That probably is true with all of his hearts being dead, what about with all of them being completely live?

grb137 11-30-2005 09:04 PM

Re: 6-12 Stud Hi
 
[ QUOTE ]
Alright, so taking Jeff's advice about the stud games on euro being super soft I took a shot at the 6-12 game. Let me know what you guys think. No reads on anyone as this is only about my tenth hand or so

50cent ante $3 BI 6-12 Limit

Third Street

Seat1 XX 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Folds
Seat2 XX K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Completes___Calls
Seat3 XX Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Folds
Seat4 XX 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Calls___Calls
Hero K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Raises
Seat6 XX A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Folds
Seat7 XX 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Brings In Folds

Fourth Street

Seat2 XX K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Raises
Seat4 XX 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Calls
Hero K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Bets___Calls

Fifth Street

Seat2 XX K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Raises
Seat4 XX 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Calls
Hero K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Bets___Calls

Sixth Street

Seat2 XX K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Bets
Seat4 XX 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Calls
Hero K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Calls

Seventh

Seat2 XX K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] X Bets
Seat4 XX 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] X Calls
Hero K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Folds

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3rd - raise
4th - bet-call, and unless you've seen him raise draws in previous hands, put him on trips or 2 pair
5th - check-call assuming you're behind (or bet-fold assuming he's raising with trip 10s)
6th - call
7th - fold (fold aces up here also - the middle guy's either got trips or a flush)


Edit: I missed the part about this being a really soft game. If this is the observation, then I guess I'd probably:
3rd - raise
4th - bet-call
5th - check-call
6th - call
7th - fold (but call with Aces up)

grb137 11-30-2005 09:11 PM

Re: 6-12 Stud Hi
 
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3-bet 4th.

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And what, pray tell, would that accomplish exactly?

blumpkin22 11-30-2005 09:35 PM

Re: 6-12 Stud Hi
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
3-bet 4th.

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And what, pray tell, would that accomplish exactly?

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Please never use that phrase again. Ever. Thank you.


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