Stratosphere taking money from their dealers?
 

I was at the Strat yesterday playing some pokah and noticed a dealer put a couple bucks into a box at the counter. I then asked what that was for, and was informed that management has now adopted a policy that all dealers are required to "tip out" the floorman 1.50/hour whether they deal or not. That is 15.00/day as they work 10 hour shifts. 60/wk and 3000/yr. They were told they had no choice. Ok, figure 10 dealers or more on, thats 150.00+ that the floormen get as a bonus to their salary? Whats up with that?

Re: Stratosphere screwing their dealers?
 

This sort of thing is common in other tip-driven industries.

Re: Stratosphere screwing their dealers?
 

I haved worked in this business for 9 years and never once see a "forced tip" to someone that is salaried and making about 190/day (assumed over 10 hours by industry average). Well I wont be tipping at the counter anymore when they cash me out.

Re: Stratosphere screwing their dealers?
 

When I worked as a waiter, I was expected to tip the bartender and the busboys. I generally did.

When I was a busboy (age 16), I got tipped by the waitresses three times in six months. BTW, busboy is a pretty shitty job.

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This is a pretty destructive practice, whether it's "industry standard" or not. I don't tip out the floor when I deal, and I don't expect to be tipped out when I'm the floor. I think it's total bullchit. I wouldn't be surprised to see the chit hit the fan over this sooner or later.

al

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This is a pretty destructive practice, whether it's "industry standard" or not. I don't tip out the floor when I deal, and I don't expect to be tipped out when I'm the floor. I think it's total bullshit. I wouldn't be surprised to see the chit hit the fan over this sooner or later.

al

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I know you guys hate it, but I actually like it both from a management perspective, and from a staff perspective. What I don't like is that the tip out is forced even when the dealer is not working, thats just wrong.

I used to be a parter in a nightclub in a former life, The waitresses tip out the bartender. The bartender tips out the barback, and everyone tips out the buss boys. Floor manager makes a small skim off the tips. Everyone is happy and everyone is encouraged to make the customers happy so everyone profits.

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It should be noted that in rooms which do use this (IMO destructive) practice, $5 a day is the "standard" not $15.

al

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It should be noted that in rooms which do use this (IMO destructive) practice, $5 a day is the "standard" not $15.

al

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Only to be shown as a comparison, the average tip out by a bartender to his barback is 30%.

Some other interesting tidbits - Foxwoods dealers pool their tips. Casino Arizona dealers turn their tips into the management to get counted and properly reported to the IRS, plus they have to give a percentage (I forgot what the number was) to the house. When I play here I tip anyway cause I'm cool like that [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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About tips in Vegas:

I was a "captain" (waitress) at The Venetian in LV. I had to tip out the bartender, backwaiter, busboy, hostess, and at some locations the maitre-D. Las Vegas is a tip (toke) driven town, and everyone expects a %. This does not suprise me, and I am sure it will become SOP.

Re: Stratosphere taking money from their dealers?
 

OMGG!!! THANK you so much for all the advice!

Sorry bud, I'm a dealer in Vegas, have been for years, and this is NOT s.o.p. for dealers whatsoever. I know what bartending and so on is, but there is not one place where dealers have to tip out until now.

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About tips in Vegas:

I was a "captain" (waitress) at The Venetian in LV. I had to tip out the bartender, backwaiter, busboy, hostess, and at some locations the maitre-D. Las Vegas is a tip (toke) driven town, and everyone expects a %. This does not suprise me, and I am sure it will become SOP.

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