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Maulik 11-28-2005 12:39 PM

3-of kind for value
 
<font color="green">Alright, on this turn, I’m assuming I’m way ahead. How do you respond to the turn min-raise? I think if I re-pop it here a worse hand folds.

On the river, I’m not sure if I should have raised and if so to what? </font>

FullTiltPoker Game #311xxxxx15: Table Kings (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:55:03 ET - 2005/11/27
Seat 1: bigosh75 ($130.25)
Seat 2: ryankennedy214 ($24.05)
Seat 3: Hero ($100)
Seat 4: billiardsbuff ($113.65)
Seat 5: Thrombus ($126.50)
Seat 6: chm8955 ($50.20)
Thrombus posts the small blind of $0.50
chm8955 posts the big blind of $1
bigosh75: nh
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
bigosh75 calls $1
ryankennedy214 folds
Hero calls $1
billiardsbuff folds
Thrombus calls $0.50
chm8955 checks
*** FLOP *** [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
Thrombus checks
chm8955 has 15 seconds left to act
chm8955 checks
bigosh75 checks
Hero bets $4
Thrombus calls $4
chm8955 folds
bigosh75 folds
*** TURN *** [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Thrombus checks
Hero bets $11
Thrombus raises to $22
Hero calls $11
*** RIVER *** [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Thrombus bets $15
Hero ?

beavens 11-28-2005 12:44 PM

Re: 3-of kind for value
 
what are you putting him on? a naked A?

i'd either 3bet to about 45-50, or just call.

either way i'm pushing the river if i'm not allin on the turn.

Isura 11-28-2005 12:50 PM

Re: 3-of kind for value
 
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either way i'm pushing the river if i'm not allin on the turn.

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What worst hands do you expect to call the river? What better hands fold?

Isura 11-28-2005 12:53 PM

Re: 3-of kind for value
 
Villain was the blind, so he could easily have T7-A7 the way the hand was played. No need to get overaggro here. I would call the turn check/raise and call the river. BTW, preflop is ugly IMO. I raise/fold here.

Maulik 11-28-2005 12:54 PM

Re: 3-of kind for value
 
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Villain was the blind, so he could easily have T7-A7 the way the hand was played. No need to get overaggro here. I would call the turn check/raise and call the river. BTW, preflop is ugly IMO. I raise/fold here.

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I'm trying to elect what I like better here. Recently, I've been limping if someone does so in front, otherwise raising if it folded to me. Acceptable?

beavens 11-28-2005 01:12 PM

Re: 3-of kind for value
 
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either way i'm pushing the river if i'm not allin on the turn.

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What worst hands do you expect to call the river? What better hands fold?

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i've seen people go nuts here with Ax, but you do raise a valid point.

Isura 11-28-2005 01:15 PM

Re: 3-of kind for value
 
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Villain was the blind, so he could easily have T7-A7 the way the hand was played. No need to get overaggro here. I would call the turn check/raise and call the river. BTW, preflop is ugly IMO. I raise/fold here.

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I'm trying to elect what I like better here. Recently, I've been limping if someone does so in front, otherwise raising if it folded to me. Acceptable?

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CO with 1 limper, I usually raise/fold - This is an easy steal/positional raise. I want to buy the button, or take it down preflop, or play a flop HU as the aggressor. On the button I'm more inclined to limp, especially with 2+ limpers. CO with 2 limpers I limp unless the conditions are perfect (both limpers are loose bad, and the BTN and blinds are tight).

11-28-2005 05:09 PM

Re: 3-of kind for value
 
I think that calling is the best situation here. Although river bet could be a blocker bet there is no point in raising here. Only a 7 will call u here and there are very few hands that will call and be worse 72,73,75,76,78 (5 hands) and 74,710,7A,7J,7Q,7K (6 hands) that beat you. Doesnt seem any point to risk it. Also, there is no real draw here so there is no real min-raise that is because of a draw. Take your licks and move on.

nothumb 11-28-2005 05:17 PM

Re: 3-of kind for value
 
I like a call here. The check/ min raise is more often than not real strength. I think the A is more likely to c/r the flop or make a pot-ish bet on the turn. But the range includes any 7, possibly some aces or some pocket pairs if he is the suspicious type. With no read I'd just call.

NT

arod15 11-29-2005 11:31 AM

Re: 3-of kind for value
 
Hows your image? If its laggy I push....


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