TPTK OOP against a very strong player
 

2/4 NL on Jetset, (9 person Full Table). Villain is one of the best players on the site, and is a big winner in the 5/10 NL game. He's best described as a thinking LAG.

Hero is HJ with AdKc,
UTG raises to $8, Hero (~1490) reraises to 27, CO (~550) calls, UTG calls.
Flop: Kh 7h 2d
UTG bets $8, Hero raises to $75, CO calls, UTG folds,
Turn: 3h
Hero?

What's the plan for the rest of the hand?

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2/4 NL on Jetset, (9 person Full Table). Villain is one of the best players on the site, and is a big winner in the 5/10 NL game. He's best described as a thinking LAG.

Hero is HJ with AdKc,
UTG raises to $8, Hero (~1490) reraises to 27, CO (~550) calls, UTG calls.
Flop: Kh 7h 2d
UTG bets $8, Hero raises to $75, CO calls, UTG folds,
Turn: 3h
Hero?

What's the plan for the rest of the hand?

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forget the rest of the hand. don't play on a table that you can be outplayed on. game selection, friend! other than that i'd bet 30$ and if he goes over the top let 'er go.

EDIT: yikes i misread that. this pot is HUGE. put CO all in his stack is nill.

Re: TPTK OOP against a very strong player
 

He's got over $400 behind... pot is ~$240.

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He's got over $400 behind... pot is ~$240.

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ok so either he has AA/KK and you are going to fold, or you are going to get it all in. you said he was a strong 5/10 nl player. my vote is fold now or push, only because if he has QQ/JJ any pot or 2/3 bet from you looks like/is a value bet, and a push just looks like you're an idiot with KJ.

and you're out of position. don't you think if you 2/3 villain might just go over the top anyway if he knows that you know he's good?

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Eh. Which one is villain? There are some really bad players that might seem decent but are really just overly agressive. If he is who I think you're thinking of, he's just bad. I would probably checkraise this turn all in.

Re: TPTK OOP against a very strong player
 

Yikes, ugly spot.

Clearly UTG is a donkey, and thus, CO probably doesn't respect your raise as much as he should, which makes this spot even uglier.

Would CO be cold calling your re-raise PF with KQ, KJ? He does have position... What does he think of YOU?

Seems like a pretty bad spot for villian to try to float you with air, so that pretty much narrows his hand range down to set, AK, mayyybe KQ/KJ, or a draw.

The only draw just got there.

I think I would probably surrender the pot, unless you have been playing very LAGro, or if you have seen him cold call with KQ/KJ (or worse) a lot, in which case I think check/raising all in is the only other option.

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Villain is Zephyr.

Re: TPTK OOP against a very strong player
 

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a push just looks like you're an idiot with KJ.

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So... we get value from KQ and.......

I think a push here lets him play perfectly against you unless he has like KxQ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], then he might make a loose call.

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Villain is Zephyr.

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edit: Read preflop action wrong. I would probably just check/fold here. Zephyr is pretty decent preflop, I think he calls here with a PP, AK or SC and you lose to all of those that would continue on at this point.

Re: TPTK OOP against a very strong player
 

You're right, he's more passive than most of the players in that game, but I've seen him make a lot of gutsy bluffs in the past, and he has taken pots away from aggressors with air, though he doesn't try as often as others, and that's usually with deeper stacks.