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Ryan11 12-07-2005 03:37 AM

99 overpair and gutshot, lots of action
 
Button: 40/21/1.89
SB: 75/46/2.3 a complete maniac
MP: 18/7.9/1.74

After not folding preflop is this a standard line? What about when it's 2 back to me on the turn? I guess the pot is way to big to fold for 1 bet on the river.

PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (13.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (22.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 25.50 BB

Kakafoni 12-07-2005 08:27 AM

Re: 99 overpair and gutshot, lots of action
 
Even with a pot as big as this one, I can't see any EV in calling the river.

Ryan11 12-07-2005 12:19 PM

Re: 99 overpair and gutshot, lots of action
 
look at the stats for SB. I don't think I could lay it down getting 23.5 to 1

12-07-2005 01:12 PM

Re: 99 overpair and gutshot, lots of action
 
calling the turn 3 bet is what really sucks...
ur smoked and calling 3?

Zygote 12-07-2005 02:25 PM

Re: 99 overpair and gutshot, lots of action
 
you should call the flop and hope to raise SB on the turn. the pot is too large for you to protect your hand on the flop.

Zygote 12-07-2005 02:27 PM

Re: 99 overpair and gutshot, lots of action
 
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Even with a pot as big as this one, I can't see any EV in calling the river.

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you really need to reevaluate some fundamental parts of your game then.

Ryan11 12-07-2005 03:13 PM

Re: 99 overpair and gutshot, lots of action
 
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calling the turn 3 bet is what really sucks...
ur smoked and calling 3?

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It's only 2 back to me and I have a gutshot, and my other 2 set outs, with the very very small possibilty of having the best hand. I don't think I can fold here.

aba20 12-07-2005 03:37 PM

Re: 99 overpair and gutshot, lots of actionhttp://forumserver.twoplust
 
I fold the turn. Could be capped by the crazy small blind, and you could easily be drawing at two outs.

Ryan11 12-07-2005 04:29 PM

Re: 99 overpair and gutshot, lots of actionhttp://forumserver.twoplust
 
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I fold the turn. Could be capped by the crazy small blind, and you could easily be drawing at two outs.

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why do you figure I could possibly have only 2 outs? I figure the 6 for the 4 8s and 2 9s.

ddubois 12-07-2005 04:55 PM

Re: 99 overpair and gutshot, lots of action
 
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Even with a pot as big as this one, I can't see any EV in calling the river.

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you really need to reevaluate some fundamental parts of your game then.

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I'm not sure what you are trying to say, but it sounds needlessly insulting. You are not winning this river 1 in 25 times, nor even 1 in 100 times. Are you hoping SB and Button both have 88? The EV of this river call may be as close to -1 BB as I've ever seen posted.


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