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ansky451 12-21-2005 12:31 AM

Sometimes being a LAG gets you in trouble.
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB (t6000)
UTG (t63315)
UTG+1 (t12725)
MP1 (t9350)
MP2 (t5075)
MP3 (t14025)
Hero (t17270)
Button (t3855)
SB (t7950)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t450</font>, Hero calls t450, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls t375, BB calls t300.

Flop: (t1800) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t450</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t7500</font>, BB folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls t5100.

I don't think I can/ want to fold to the 3 bet. I don't think there is anything wrong with the preflop call, but I'm open to flaming.

You may discuss now.

REL18 12-21-2005 12:56 AM

Re: Sometimes being a LAG gets you in trouble.
 
Questionable pre flop call but because u got yourself in that situation id call, the players will have to realize somebody has a flush so u might fold bottom set or even middle jj will call. I think you shouldnt have been in the situation in the first place

ansky451 12-21-2005 12:58 AM

Re: Sometimes being a LAG gets you in trouble.
 
Yeah, I'm not overly concerned with the flop call. Or the preflop call for that matter. Just thought both would merit some discussion.

Roman 12-21-2005 12:58 AM

Re: Sometimes being a LAG gets you in trouble.
 
Who is MP3? The flop call really depends on the opponent there. You cant fold this flop.

ansky451 12-21-2005 01:02 AM

Re: Sometimes being a LAG gets you in trouble.
 
Oh yeah sorry, this is the first level after the rebuy period in the 10 rebuy. Player is an unknown.

FWIW I'm not really asking if the flop call is good/bad cause I have no interest in folding there. We can discuss the flop raise/ raise size, and the preflop call as well.

Annulus 12-21-2005 01:03 AM

Re: Sometimes being a LAG gets you in trouble.
 
I don't mind your preflop call, especially if you feel you can outplay your opponents postflop. The hard part is when you actually flop a 8 high flush and get played back at. But in this hand, I have no problem 4-betting and putting him all in on this flop. If he did flop a flush you have 2 outs [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Roman 12-21-2005 01:17 AM

Re: Sometimes being a LAG gets you in trouble.
 
yea zzzzzzzzz boring hand, looks fine.

12-21-2005 01:19 AM

Re: Sometimes being a LAG gets you in trouble.
 
Except for preflop, which I think is fine, I don't see another way to play.

woodguy 12-21-2005 01:20 AM

Re: Sometimes being a LAG gets you in trouble.
 
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I don't think I can/ want to fold to the 3 bet.

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If you fold there you need to quit poker.


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I don't think there is anything wrong with the preflop call, but I'm open to flaming.

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Not with 17K behind, calling 450 with position is fine, you know that.

Regards,
Woodguy

Hotrod0823 12-21-2005 01:20 AM

Re: Sometimes being a LAG gets you in trouble.
 
He is essentially all in anyway. I think you can call and get shown AJx with Ad enough to make it correct.

You played 86s and hit your hand hard, you have to bet it hard on this flop. I think I push this flop and make the guy holding Ad or Kd chase.

Not to mention you have those crazy 2 straight flush outs to fall back on.

I had a similar hand last night, Raised 43s on the button, flopped my baby flush and pushed over a BB pot bet. He instacalled with ATx, TPTK with A high flush draw. So it happens.


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