Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 

In the ESPN show 'The Best hand I ever played' (a pretty decent show btw) Annie Duke talks about her TT lay-down vs. Raymer's KK in last year's TOC.

She said that ESPN had just aired the episode in which some significant Raymer coverage was shown and that she spotted a 'pretty obvious tell' on Raymer when he had a strong hand and wanted to induce a call.

Duke said she didn't want to say what the tell was.


Any ideas??

I mean..she spotted it from the freaking TV coverage...so surely the powerful minds at 2+2 should be able to figure out what she thinks is Raymer's 'obvious' tell.


(also - I'm not so sure on Lederer's slow-playing his 33 against Chan. Even if he knows he's best at that point he's still giving him a free-card. That discussion for another time perhaps).

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 

That segment should be retitled--the best hand I played that was shown on TV.

Also you can't rely that much on the TV coverage since it's so highly edited these days.

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 

this seems really familiar.
i think the same thing was posted once and someone responded:
pros claim to have tells on their opponents to get under their skin.

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That segment should be retitled--the best hand I played that was shown on TV.

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not the doyle hand.

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 

Maybe it was the magical "Oh darn Raymer putting in the third raise puts my TT in really bad shape" tell.

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 

After rewatching it 2 things,

The less noticable:
Raymer's chest visibly heaves as Anne deliberates and he tries to remain stone faced.

The other is he insta-all in'd after looking at 1 then 2 cards with anne betting excatly what Daniel had left -130K I think.

I'd like to think it was the heavy breathing.

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I'm trying to cut out the clip but having problems, any software suggestions? I've tried Tmpeg and Adobe Premiere.

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 

I hope fossilman posts.

Also, I think it's kind of pathetic that the best hand Annie Duke ever played involved folding tens to an all-in reraise. Congrats lady... congrats.

Re: Raymer tell spotted by Annie duke
 

I'm gonna say the speed that raymer moved in. There was no hollwood, no concern. BAM i'm all in! Usually a sign of a big pair like KK or QQ. As in some ways the person thinks there is enough out there to shut everybody out and take this nice little pot with 0 perecnt chance of losing and adding to his stack. Don't get me wrong he doesnt mind a call but at the same time there is enough out there to take it right now. Remmebr even if one of them has just an A they will win 30 percent of the time. Now if he had AA thats a different story. Also i think greg goes by the theory if he moved in faster they will think he's weak. As most people move in fast with weak hands and hollywood BIG hands. So he reverses it.

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As in some ways the person thinks there is enough out there to shut everybody out and take this nice little pot with 0 perecnt chance of losing and adding to his stack. Don't get me wrong he doesnt mind a call but at the same time there is enough out there to take it right now. Remmebr even if one of them has just an A they will win 30 percent of the time.

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With only one place getting paid, Greg would LOVE to get in 70/30. If he thought he could milk a call from an ace, I guarantee he'd do his best to induce it.