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1C5 12-14-2005 12:57 AM

($22) Simple question. Please help
 
Seems I forgot how to play poker since my recent downswing. I am sure this is a simple question. What do you do on the river? Check or bet and if bet, how much?
Villian is typical $22er donk.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter

Hero (t1940)
MP1 (t915)
MP2 (t815)
CO (t740)
Button (t655)
SB (t810)
BB (t1350)
UTG (t775)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t50, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t125) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t125</font>, BB calls t75.

Turn: (t375) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t275</font>, BB calls t225.

River: (t925) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ?

Maulik 12-14-2005 01:01 AM

Re: ($22) Simple question. Please help
 
700?

ilya 12-14-2005 01:01 AM

Re: ($22) Simple question. Please help
 
I think there's a good chance that a busted draw bluffs this river and a better hand bets to represent the busted draw. He has to call you on the end with any sort of made hand, so I would put him all-in. If you're wrong, your stack will not have lost maneuvaribility...I would be much more inclined to check behind on the river if you had only something like 800 behind by then.

curtains 12-14-2005 01:22 AM

Re: ($22) Simple question. Please help
 
Raise preflop with your monster stack, raise more on the flop and bet about 400-500 on the river. I practically never open limp in the 25-50 round and would especially never do so with a giant stack with AQo

wiggs73 12-14-2005 01:33 AM

Re: ($22) Simple question. Please help
 
I'd go ahead and raise to t125 pre-flop.

I'd raise to t200 on the flop.

I'd bet about t400 on the river.

(Note that each of these statements are considering that you did what you did, not what I suggested in the preceding statement).

Irieguy 12-14-2005 01:42 AM

Re: ($22) Simple question. Please help
 
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Raise preflop with your monster stack, raise more on the flop and bet about 400-500 on the river. I practically never open limp in the 25-50 round and would especially never do so with a giant stack with AQo

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Yeah, I really don't understand open-limping AQ and 38 big blinds preflop. That's the opposite of poker.

Then TPTK on the flop with a weak lead into you and a flush draw on board... why raise less than the pot?

You played the hand like you were waiting to get beat and were already thinking about what kind of shape you would be in with your remaining chips.

Irieguy

ilya 12-14-2005 01:42 AM

Re: ($22) Simple question. Please help
 
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I think there's a good chance that a busted draw bluffs this river and a better hand bets to represent the busted draw. He has to call you on the end with any sort of made hand, so I would put him all-in. If you're wrong, your stack will not have lost maneuvaribility...I would be much more inclined to check behind on the river if you had only something like 800 behind by then.

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Err oops I thought Villain had 400 behind on river....I would bet something in that range, not push.

12-14-2005 01:46 AM

Re: ($22) Simple question. Please help
 
wtf?
i fold this one preflop

12-14-2005 01:46 AM

Re: ($22) Simple question. Please help
 
Yeah. More aggression PF and on the flop.
A good sized bet on the river.

wiggs73 12-14-2005 01:52 AM

Re: ($22) Simple question. Please help
 
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i fold this one preflop

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no. that's awful.


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