am i supposed to be folding here?
 

party 10/20 6max

co open limps, button raises, SB folds, I call with AcJh in the BB.

flop is AT3r and it's checked around.

turn is a 6, putting 2 clubs on the board.

i bet, co folds, button raises.

Re: am i supposed to be folding here?
 

Yeah, that looks mighty suspicious to me.

Scott

Re: am i supposed to be folding here?
 

why check the flop?

I dont fold to a button raise after one open limp who then checks the flop and raises the turn.

He could have KK QQ JJ or semibluffing with a flush draw

Re: am i supposed to be folding here?
 

It's hard to think what type of hand your opponet would check this flop with but raise the turn with here, he could have a wide range of hands, anywhere from a set or flush, two pair, or simply a flush draw, straight draw, mid pair, top pair.

1. 5:1 is big enough odds for me to want to call down with top pair after he checked the flop. Basically you only need to be good here maybe 25% of the time for +EV, little bit higher then 20% because of when he is on a flush draw he will have pot equity when you are ahead.
2. He can't put you on an ace because you called pf from the BB and checked the flop. So he might be trying to push you off a marginal hand or flush draw.

If he's an aggresive opponet call down, if he's straightforward then muck.

Re: am i supposed to be folding here?
 

I would need at least AK or a read to call down I think. In my experience the button's play is a big hand a very high percentage of the time.

Re: am i supposed to be folding here?
 

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5:1 is big enough odds for me to want to call down

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He's only getting 7-2 to see the showdown.

Scott

Re: am i supposed to be folding here?
 

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If he's an aggresive opponet call down, if he's straightforward then muck.

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What hand would a straightforward player play this way?

Re: am i supposed to be folding here?
 

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What hand would a straightforward player play this way?

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AA

Re: am i supposed to be folding here?
 

I'd call down. I think I might well be behind, but I'm not sure enough to fold against a typical 10/20 6-max player.

B.

Re: am i supposed to be folding here?
 

AT also. Lets hope he's getting frisky with A9 or worse or KQ clubs, but I think you're in trouble. Is anybody really playing KK, QQ this way? That seems slightly suicidal.