A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

Many of you aren't going to like this hand, but it's actually awesome, and by awesome I mean totally sweet.

Villain is very loose and aggressive. He's stealing with way too much and betting the flop way too often. However, he's also giving up way to early postflop. (Or maybe that is his redeeming counter-fault)

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls.

He's raising with two cards, I have a showdown hand, I have huge postflop skillz, it's dark, and I'm wearing sunglasses. Hit it.

Flop: (7 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls.

I check-raise to collect an extra bet from him when he doesn't even have a pair (what, 75% of the time here?) and to set him up for his patented turn fold.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Whoops, he didn't fold, but I have a flush draw anyhow.

River: (7.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>

Will he dump here one time in 7.5? I think it beats checking and calling. Checking and folding seems too weak for 7.5 bets because I think he's capable of a bluff.

What do you do on the river?

Re: A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

I dont like the river bet. He is only going to call with hands that beat you. I.E Better Ace High, Any Pair,

I dont know if he is gonna show down KQ and QJ enough to make this profitable.

I'm also not sure if you are suppose to try the c/r flop lead turn after 3 betting from the SB. I usually see this used when you just call from BB.

Looks pretty good though.

Re: A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

I don't like the river bet. If he folds you had the best hand. And he never folds a worse hand I wouldn't imagine. If he's truly giving up too early postflop he clearly has a pair here since he doesn't have a big ace (that caps preflop) and he's not calling down with KJ.

Re: A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

I dont see him paying you off with K or Q high, and you sure as hell arent getting him to fold a better hand. Check/Call or Check/Fold imo. I dont like folding Ace high against these kinda dudes though

Re: A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

Heads up against a random hand, your equity in this pot is about 39% on the river. On this river, if you put him on total air, betting &gt; check-folding &gt;&gt;&gt; check-calling. Since you had a read, I'll just have to trust that this guy was actually willing to give up when he was out of line when someone pushed back. Becasue of this, I don't mind your preflop, flop, or turn play. While this hand was well played if he had absolutely nothing, 62o crushes you, and will probably call the river if he's come this far.

Re: A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

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I dont see him paying you off with K or Q high, and you sure as hell arent getting him to fold a better hand. Check/Call or Check/Fold imo. I dont like folding Ace high against these kinda dudes though

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If you check this river, you should fold when he bets.

Re: A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

I would check and call all the way down if he is as loose and aggro as you say. Let him bluff his $$$ off.

Re: A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

I think I agree with you guys. When he called the turn I should have realized he was going to show me a hand.

Re: A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

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I would check and call all the way down if he is as loose and aggro as you say. Let him bluff his $$$ off.

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I thought he said he liked to fold on the flop when someone pushed back? Also, you should give some thought to folding preflop. You've put a whopping 1/3 of a small bet into the pot. I'd seriously consider folding this preflop. Oh, and by the way, if he really does have "two cards" here, your equity on the river is about 39%. Thus, a bluff really only has to be profitable a lot less than 1 in 7.5 to yield a profit, as 39% of the time, it's not a bluff!

Re: A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

I'm going to have to give that some more consideration. He wasn't super agro post-flop. He would give up on the turn quite a bit, or take a free card if checked to when he wasn't happy with his hand.

Look at my line. If he has something like JTo here, I gain an extra bet from him on the flop. And then I have some folding equity when I bet the turn, and certainly deny him a free card. I have the best hand here so often, I don't want free cards coming.

He'd have to be really aggressive even on the turn for me to prefer check-call type lines.

Please help me out if I'm wrong on this.

Re: A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

High pf aggro (unlimitted in the steal) and loose preflop. Likes to take a stab at any flop, but then scared/weak post-flop. That is the animal we are dealing with here.

When I saw A3s I saw an opportunity to take control, win some extra bets preflop and on the flop and fold him out the majority of the time. (Not counting all the times I actually have the best hand.)

I don't mind people wanting to fold. But I think there's plenty of gas in the hand, in this circumstance, personally.

Re: A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

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I don't mind people wanting to fold. But I think there's plenty of gas in the hand, in this circumstance, personally.

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If he has ANY two cards here, you are only a 58/42 favorite to win. If he's stealing with the top 50% of his hands, it's considerably worse. I do agree that if you intend on playing, you must three bet.

Re: A3s in the SB. I play some poker.
 

Dude, you're my idol.

Awesome, and by that I mean totally sweet. Blues Brothers reference is +++++++++++++EV.

This river, though . . . hmm. Let's think about it.

On the river, you have two goals:
1. Make a better hand fold.
2. Make a worse hand pay you off.

Given what we know about this guy, I think it's possible we can accomplish this. Your nonstop aggression might convince him that his A/8 is no good. You might also get him to call with K/J; Lord knows I've done that too many times against donks who come in with any two.

So, yeah, it's possible, but how likely?

In truth, probably not very.

He hasn't shown one particle of aggression since you popped the flop, so if you check, I doubt he's betting here. If he does, call, since you might just snap him off and win a bet from a hand he wouldn't have called with.

In the end, you both likely have no piece of this, and either your nothing is just slightly better than his nothing, or just slightly worse. (Or he has a Q, in which case you're really screwed.) Not enough to value bet. Check-call.