Is folding KK ever correct? Caesars Indiana live $100 MTT
 

Saturday June 4 at Caesars In, sold out at 120 players.

I'm in MP, blinds are 300/600 and skyrocketing every 15
minutes. One time we only got in 4 hands in a 15 minute
period, anyway.....I get KK, I have 7,000T, the UTG has
about 15K chips and raises to 3K, it's folded to the guy
on my right who I thought folded. I said I'm all-in and the
guy freaks a little telling me he has'nt acted yet. I apologized and then he starts shaking like hell and digging at his chips because he's got part of them jammed up between the felt and the railing. He says he's going all-in
too with 8500T. I folded my KK and it goes back to the UTG who called his 8500 all-in. Heads up.

UTG had A Q and shaky had QQ. Junk hits the board and QQ
is good. I feel sick [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

21,000 chips would have been pretty healthy right about then.

But the way he was acting, I strongly felt he had AA, the
re-buy and add-on period was over and it was a tad more
serious play. I had just been moved to the table so I had
no reads on guy to my right other than current observations.

I went on to finish 18th.

Thanks for reading and any comments.
Have you ever folded KK pre-flop (in a MTT) ?

Re: Is folding KK ever correct? Caesars Indiana live $100 MTT
 

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One time we only got in 4 hands in a 15 minute
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I folded my KK

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With a fast structure like this, do you really think there's a better time for you to double up?

Re: Is folding KK ever correct? Caesars Indiana live $100 MTT
 

Have you ever folded KK pre-flop (in a MTT) ?

No. And if I ever do, take me out an shoot me.

Re: Is folding KK ever correct? Caesars Indiana live $100 MTT
 

Not in a live $100 MTT.

Re: Is folding KK ever correct? Caesars Indiana live $100 MTT
 

don't want to jump on you here, but given the blind structure you described, with KK I don't care if the guy was doing the chicken dance before pushing in.

Re: Is folding KK ever correct? Caesars Indiana live $100 MTT
 

In any tournament structure this fold would at least be debatable. Here, it's downright horrible.

Re: Is folding KK ever correct? Caesars Indiana live $100 MTT
 

Well, I suppose some confluence of events could convince me to fold KK in a situation like this. However, it hasn't happened yet, and I probably have a better chance to win the lottery than run into that circumstance. Thing is, you're in one of those superfast blind structure tournaments that drive me crazy. You are pretty much forced to gamble. There's only one hand better to gamble with. Bad fold.

Re: Is folding KK ever correct? Caesars Indiana live $100 MTT
 

You probably should not be playing in the tourney if you are going to do something dumb like that.

OK, verdict is in..........thanks
 

I had never played that long in a live MTT and it was my
third one. I never realized until too late, that you are
indeed forced to gamble.
I think folding KK is probably an OK move if you are
ITM at the final table, and there are a couple of all-ins
ahead of you.
Next time, thanks.

Re: Is folding KK ever correct? Caesars Indiana live $100 MTT
 

I agree with blinds going up that fast it would be perfect to double up. Obviously you would think one has an ace, not likely two of em but you can't lay it down here.