5/10 Interesting hand: Deep, Multiway and everyone is Lag
 

Button is new..never seen him before today. When I started he had a $8500 stack which I've chopped away at. He is lag: 50/33/1.6 after 125+ hands. His miniraise preflop means absolutely nothing.

UTG is also brand new and playing lag, trying to bully. I don't think he's adjusting too well to the Button and the table in general since all he does is raise big pre, bet flop, check/fold turn. He is 37/23.

Myself, I've been gamboooling big time to build as much stack as possible so I can get the rest of button's $$$. I'm been to the flop ~70% of the time yet not raising pre too much. Button is very afraid of playing large pots with me since I can hurt her stack good.

-Now, what do you think of the flop squeeze?
-If button calls, what do you do on a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] turn?
-On a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] turn that pairs board?
-On a complete brick (5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] say)?

In the actual hand they both folded but I'd like to get thoughts on how the hand is best played out under the circumstances of button calling and playing our hand OOP on the turn in huge pot.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($1089)
UTG ($1185)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($2849.25)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO ($0)</font>
Button ($6988.88)
SB ($300)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $40</font>, Hero calls $40, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $70</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $30, Hero calls $30.

Flop: ($225) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $150</font>, UTG calls $150, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $700</font>, Button folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $1225

Re: 5/10 Interesting hand: Deep, Multiway and everyone is Lag
 

flop squeeze is fine, gonna be pretty [censored] tough for AK to look you up here, you're gonna have to hope he doesn't have QQQ or AAA, if he sticks it in, I think you have to fold despite the super sexy looking hand
-bet diamond turn, cry if he has K hi flush
-diamond turn that pairs board.....check the deck, must be fixed
-complete brick, you're probably effed and might have to check fold

Re: 5/10 Interesting hand: Deep, Multiway and everyone is Lag
 

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-diamond turn that pairs board.....check the deck, must be fixed


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Fortunately that cannot happen in this case

Re: 5/10 Interesting hand: Deep, Multiway and everyone is Lag
 

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-diamond turn that pairs board.....check the deck, must be fixed


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Fortunately that cannot happen in this case

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LOL. oops. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: 5/10 Interesting hand: Deep, Multiway and everyone is Lag
 

I would consider smooth-calling here in hopes of winning a huge pot as I think there is a decent chance that the button has a big hand. One problem with your play is that if the button does have a strong enough hand to pay off significantly, your raise will usually induce a large reraise to which you must fold.

Re: 5/10 Interesting hand: Deep, Multiway and everyone is Lag
 

I think calling may be good since you're facing two LAGs with a big draw. When you raise, you rarely get called by both players, and you miss out on some cool equity. Of course, raising also opens it up for a reraise push and you're heads-up with less than 50% equity.

Re: 5/10 Interesting hand: Deep, Multiway and everyone is Lag
 

The real question is how do you play a queen or a jack.

Re: 5/10 Interesting hand: Deep, Multiway and everyone is Lag
 

With a Q I'm jamming. Probably with a J as well.

Re: 5/10 Interesting hand: Deep, Multiway and everyone is Lag
 

Dont jam with a J.

Re: 5/10 Interesting hand: Deep, Multiway and everyone is Lag
 

Are you asking about a Q or J assuming a flop raise or flop call? With a flop call I jam both, but with a raise I'm not so sure.