So is this normal? How should the house handle this? If anything...
 

I've only played B&M twice in my life, both times spent a few days in Tunica.

Typical very loose-very bad low limit table (3/6)

I pick up AJs in EP and raise, 1 caller, then a reraise, then a cold-call of 3 bets, I call, original limper calls. I know i'm probably behind..

Flop

A J 4, 2 hearts.

I have the best hand probably, and bet out, it gets raised, and then reraised and then another cold call, I cap, yada yda.

turn is a rag, I bet out, everyone calls (at this point the guy whose been cold calling is all in).

He then stands up and leans over the table and begins saying

"heart.... heart.... heart, heart"

Not loudly, like screaming, but in a normal talking voice, loud enough so everyone at the table can hear him.

So at this point I put the guy on a heart draw.....

river - rag [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I pissed offidly bet out and both guys called,

They each had AK and my AJ wins the baby side pot created on the river.

Mr Horrible Hearts collects the main pot with his garbage flush (had like 85 or something terrible).

I know alot of people don't have poker savy, but does a player really think its approriate to get up and begin saying heart over and over, making it clear he holds a flush draw, while there are 3 other active players??

What is the house rule on this? Obviously it's "frowned" upon but what is supposed to happen? The guy given a warning? Told to shut up? Folded? What if anything is supposed to happen to a player doing this?

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Half the time the guy calling for the flush isn't on the draw. Superstition, deception, idiot, take your pick. There is no rule against doing this. Quite common.

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Half the time the guy calling for the flush isn't on the draw. Superstition, deception, idiot , take your pick. There is no rule against doing this. Quite common.

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either way he's supposed to stfu while the hand is still being played.

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either way he's supposed to stfu while the hand is still being played.

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He is in the hand so can say whatever he wants.

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Intresting..

Was playing a 1/2 game down here.

Have like KQ(black) utg+1 and get like 2 callers before it gets to 3 and then 2 more callers, till it got capped with 5 people along for the ride.

Flop comes Qh Jd 3h

I bet, and 3 call. I ask for no heart/to keep it black and to keep it low.

Is that against the rules?

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Why would you want to discourage this? Let them tell you exactly what they have, its nice.

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Thank all the tv-poker shows for this type of behavior.

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There is no rule that says a player in a hand can whatever he wants. there are all kinds of things he can't say.

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Leave him alone, if he will play two low suited cards for a raise, you want him in the game. I would probably cheer along with him. He make suck out this time but this is exactly the kind of behavior you want to encourage.

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I was at the GoldStrike a few years ago (I think before the WPT really got rolling), and they were doing it then.

Granted, I was only there for a couple of days, and basically stuck to one casino, but still. Mississippi is a whole different poker game.

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Well I know you want bad players at the game, and the suckout was just another suckout, but hypothetically by saying what he did, the two players at the end might have folded to my bet and thus I win no side pot, because they know he hit is flush.

His saying it had no impact on the action which was good, but it had potential to.

I just can't fathom that you should be allowed to discuss the cards in your hand while the hand is still in play.

He might of well said "I have 2 low hearts" or something etc.

Bear in mind this player was all in so at that point lying for deception was not an issue, he was not going to fold or get any more action on his money.

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Thank all the tv-poker shows for this type of behavior.

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Did he go parading around the card room yelling "Yaaaaaaaaaaa! Yaaaaaaaaaaaa!" while pumping his fist?

ScottieK

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Why would you want to discourage this? Let them tell you exactly what they have, its nice.

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Depending on the situation, it could mean losing current customers in the hand. In this case, they're probably sticking around with their crappy 2nd pairs, etc and holding out for the side pot.

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either way he's supposed to stfu while the hand is still being played.

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He is in the hand so can say whatever he wants.

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Absolute not true unless he's in the hand and it's head up. Problem with saying anything while there are more than one other player in the hand is that the information you're giving out is not of equal value to the other parties. The example above is a good one:: 1. it allowed the bettor to know that the all-in guy was on hearts, hence reducing the probability that one of the other players had hearts and hence enabling him to bet more easily. 2. it should have alerted one of the two callers that he was less likely to win the main pot, hence increasing the probability that he would fold the river (if he had any brains).

These are the kind of effects that you do not want in the game. (Just imagine a hi/lo split pot game where one guys tells the another to raise so I can reraise cause I'm going high.)

Just cause you're in the hand does not mean you can say whatever you want. I've never heard of any poker environment where such a rule (official or otherwise) exists.

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I see this all the time. Usually it's about 50-50 between a player that thinks he's being clever and deceptive (and actually has something like TP) and a player that's just having fun and isn't all that concerned about preserving the sanctity of the game.

Usually there are enough deceptive players around that no one will believe the guy anyway, and the "fun" atmosphere that it creates more than outweighs any potential harm. Remember that a lot of low-limit players don't really see poker as a predatory game of skill - to them its just another form of gambling where you all throw your chips in the middle and see who's hand ends up best.

I'm sure if you complained to the dealer he'd tell this guy to STFU, but you'd almost definately cost yourself money by doing that - you're in a 3-6 game, after all, don't be that guy that wants to play "serious" poker when everyone else is just having fun.

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either way he's supposed to stfu while the hand is still being played.

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He is in the hand so can say whatever he wants.

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Absolutely incorrect. A player can not say whatever he wants.