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jdock99 09-17-2005 07:56 PM

Televised poker will never become a major sport
 
I just finished watching the Notre Dame /Michigan St. game. As much as I love poker and would like to see it suceed in the long term on TV, no poker telecast, live or taped, could ever come close in entertainment value to a good football game.

STLantny 09-17-2005 09:03 PM

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I just finished watching the Notre Dame /Michigan St. game. As much as I love poker and would like to see it suceed in the long term on TV, no poker telecast, live or taped, could ever come close in entertainment value to a good football game.

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UHH, why do you think poker is so popular now? Hint:
Because its ON TV. Its not a sport either.

Quicksilvre 09-17-2005 11:25 PM

Re: Televised poker will never become a major sport
 
Of course televised poker will never become a major sport. It's not a sport.

Easy E 09-17-2005 11:30 PM

That\'s because it can\'t
 
Poker is a game, not a sport

Neil Stevens 09-18-2005 12:39 AM

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...no poker telecast, live or taped, could ever come close in entertainment value to a good football game.

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Right. A good poker broadcast is so far above and beyond a bunch of 300 hundred pound men (400 with pads) banging in to each other over and over, that it's not even close.

But poker isn't a sport, so your subject is correct.

jdock99 09-18-2005 01:22 AM

Re: Televised poker will never become major televised \'entertainment\'
 
You guys got so caught up on the word "sport" that you missed the whole point of the article. I am pretty sure that the demographic of people that would watch televised poker (male, 12+, etc.) are the same demographic of people that watch sports. And guess what, televised poker will never be as entertaining as sports, and will probably be gone when the fad ends.

-Oh, and for the record, if I see something that is televised heavily on Fox Sports and ESPN I am going to call it a sport.

Neil Stevens 09-18-2005 01:46 AM

Re: Televised poker will never become major televised \'entertainment\'
 
If what you say is true, then how did television spark this fad to begin with?

manpower 09-18-2005 02:17 AM

Re: Televised poker will never become major televised \'entertainment\'
 
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You guys got so caught up on the word "sport" that you missed the whole point of the article. I am pretty sure that the demographic of people that would watch televised poker (male, 12+, etc.) are the same demographic of people that watch sports. And guess what, televised poker will never be as entertaining as sports, and will probably be gone when the fad ends.

-Oh, and for the record, if I see something that is televised heavily on Fox Sports and ESPN I am going to call it a sport.

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Dude, Golf is on TV all the time. And it sucks. So does bowling. And for the love of God, do you realize people watch Cricket in parts of this world?

dibbs 09-18-2005 04:22 AM

Re: Televised poker will never become a major sport
 
Think this might have anything to do with the fact that poker isn't a sport?

I might add that competetive Halo 2, knitting, fishing, Gin, Backgammon, bridge, beirut etc. will never become a major sport.

(An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.)

Greg (FossilMan) 09-18-2005 11:46 AM

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no poker telecast, live or taped, could ever come close in entertainment value to a good football game.

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Well, that might be true if you like football more than poker. Personally, I think football sucks. It sucks to play, it sucks to watch. Just because your personal tastes dictate one thing doesn't mean the rest of the world shares your taste.

Your post is kind of like saying Tiramisu will never succeed as a dessert. It's just a fad, and will die out soon. It just can't compare to a good slice of chocolate cake. I hate tiramisu, and I like chocolate cake. For me, this statement is true. However, there appears to be a lot of folks out there with different tastes than me, who like tiramisu.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

Overdrive 09-18-2005 12:16 PM

Re: Televised poker will never become a major sport
 
Watching sports like college football, and of course all the pro sports is a complete waste of time, unless you are somebody who likes to bet on them I guess. How a grown man can sit and watch a bunch of blingged out, arrogant, wanna be multi millionaire wanna be gangstas chase a ball around a field is beyond me....

DcifrThs 09-18-2005 12:55 PM

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no poker telecast, live or taped, could ever come close in entertainment value to a good football game.

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Well, that might be true if you like football more than poker. Personally, I think football sucks. It sucks to play, it sucks to watch. Just because your personal tastes dictate one thing doesn't mean the rest of the world shares your taste.

Your post is kind of like saying Tiramisu will never succeed as a dessert. It's just a fad, and will die out soon. It just can't compare to a good slice of chocolate cake. I hate tiramisu, and I like chocolate cake. For me, this statement is true. However, there appears to be a lot of folks out there with different tastes than me, who like tiramisu.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

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i agree. tiramisu will never become a major sport

Barron

bobbyi 09-18-2005 01:00 PM

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Tiramisu is the nuts.

Quicksilvre 09-18-2005 05:15 PM

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i agree. tiramisu will never become a major sport

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Mark Heide 09-18-2005 09:04 PM

Re: Televised poker will never become a major sport
 
I agree with your statement because poker is not a sport it is a game. There is no physical aspect to poker. Lets face it we have people of all ages playing poker fat, old, young, and fit. But, the popularity is increasing. I even found my mother watching the NBC Heads-Up tornament, and I can tell you she hates football. But, what I would like to see is these sponsors like ESPN start picking up the casino tab on theses add on fees and casino expenses. I'm sure they are making enough on the advertising to do so. I believe the players are getting ripped off with the increases in fees. I'd like to see theses $50 to $100 add on fees to the $1000 entries go away. We definately need the players on the tournament circuit to speak up to these media giants and turn them away unless they can put some dough.

Good Luck

Mark

jakethebake 09-19-2005 07:42 AM

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Of course televised poker will never become a major sport. It's not a sport.

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miajag81 09-19-2005 12:17 PM

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I hate tiramisu

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

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STFU n00b, tiramisu is great.

benfranklin 09-19-2005 01:27 PM

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-Oh, and for the record, if I see something that is televised heavily on Fox Sports and ESPN I am going to call it a sport.

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sport Pronunciation (spôrt, sprt) n.
1.
a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
b. A particular form of this activity.


2. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.


3. An active pastime; recreation.


The closest thing to physical exertion I've ever seen at a poker table is Matusow running his mouth.

09-19-2005 06:09 PM

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I agree with Greg. Although poker isn't a "sport", there is no reason is won't last on television. I don't like to watch football, but I love watching poker. I'd also venture to say that more people enjoy watching poker than do curling and/or darts (which I have seen on TV many times throughout my life).

autobet 09-19-2005 06:43 PM

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tiramisu will never become a major sport

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Every seen a cooking show...

Chef adds flour, crowd, "Ohhhhhhhhhh".

Chef adds chocolate, crowd goes wild, "Ahhhhhhhhhhh".

The tension mounts as you wonder just what is coming next...

09-19-2005 07:21 PM

Re: Televised poker will never become major televised \'entertainment\'
 
Yes, poker is not as exciting to watch as football. It is more exciting than bowling, golf and even baseball. IMO

imported_adhoc 09-19-2005 08:19 PM

Re: Televised poker will never become a major sport
 
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I like chocolate cake.

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- Greg "Fossilman" Raymer

This may replace my current quote about David Sklansky wanting to buy Barry Greenstein's baby

dibbs 09-20-2005 12:38 AM

Re: Televised poker will never become a major sport
 
BAM.

Pov 09-20-2005 09:43 PM

Re: Televised poker will never become a major sport
 
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Watching sports like college football, and of course all the pro sports is a complete waste of time, unless you are somebody who likes to bet on them I guess. How a grown man can sit and watch a bunch of blingged out, arrogant, wanna be multi millionaire wanna be gangstas chase a ball around a field is beyond me....

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You sound just like the ignorant people who don't understand poker that describe it as a "just a bunch of cheaters bluffing and it's all luck anyway" game. You don't have to like football, but you can't really deny there is a lot of strategy and quick wits necessary to succeed along with the physical talents and hard training. Sure, some of the players are a bad example, but many of them are an excellent example. If you take the time to understand it and all its nuances, there is a *lot* more going on than you'd think at first glance and just listening to the announcers, particularly at the pro level. The opportunity to see strategy, improvisation and athleticism all combined while rooting for you favorites and booing their rivals is what televised competition is all about and football delivers it probably better than anything else right now.

I like televised poker too.

mackthefork 09-21-2005 04:24 AM

Re: Televised poker will never become a major sport
 
I always thought people in the US didn't like football, they play that other game instead, similar to rugby only with a suit of armour on.

Mack

Pov 09-21-2005 04:46 PM

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I always thought people in the US didn't like football, they play that other game instead, similar to rugby only with a suit of armour on.

Mack

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I think soccer is on its way to becoming quite popular here actually, though clearly not nearly as much as American football currently is. Most middle-aged Americans didn't grow up playing soccer, but a LOT of kids growing up now do so I expect in another ten years or so it will be as big a deal to the majority of Americans as it is to the lucky few of us now who already know what a great sport it is.

We just clinched for Germany a few weeks ago and our U-17 team advanced to the quarter finals of the World Championship yesterday by beating Italy 3-1. I'd say it's catching on. Look out. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Anyway, interesting terminology trivia, the use of "soccer" to refer to English football actually comes from the English. It's derived from association as in Association Football Club (AFC) from when you had association football and rugby football. But two-word names for sports are annoying so it was shortened to just rugby and football. Here we took the assoc and made it soccer, dropping the second part instead of the first. But as long as FIFA calls it football I think it's football on the world stage. Clearly that would create confusion in the United States though so we stick with soccer much like the Canadians.

Mikey 09-21-2005 05:07 PM

Re: Televised poker will never become a major sport
 
Your opinion is your own.

I watched so many guys down in AC this week.... so happy and excited that they WPT came to the Borgata and they were reciting things that they saw on ESPN.....

Some guys really do love poker.

I know for me that I would rather watch a poker Tournament on TV of course with reputable players rather than watch the Super Bowl.

Quicksilvre 09-21-2005 08:13 PM

Re: Televised poker will never become a major sport
 
It's been a major recreational sport in the US for a long, long time now. However, it's never caught on as a spectator/television sport the way gridiron football, baseball, or basketball has.


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