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Equal 11-30-2005 06:26 AM

3/6 NL - Overplaying QQ?
 
Never seen Villian before, however he seems reasonable after a couple orbits. I didn't see how he built his stack - he was over 1k when I sat down.


$3/$6 Blinds No Limit Hold'em

Total number of players : 4

Seat 10: ( $780.85 )
Seat 3: Villian ( $1010.45 )
Seat 6: Hero( $1114.05 )
Seat 8: ( $450.72 )

Seat 8 posts small blind [$3].
Seat 10 posts big blind [$6].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Hero [ Qc Qs ]

Villian raises [$18].
Hero raises [$48].
SB folds.
BB folds.
Villian calls [$30].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 2d, 7s ]

Villian bets [$60].
Hero raises [$192].
Villian calls [$132].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]

$500 in pot.

Villian checks.
Hero bets [$350].
Villian calls [$350].

** Dealing River ** [ 3c ]

$1,200 in pot.

Villian checks.
Hero bets all-in [$524.05].

Thoughts on post-flop line?

fuzzbox 11-30-2005 06:34 AM

Re: 3/6 NL - Overplaying QQ?
 
I dont know if a reasonable player calls the river with a worse hand than QQ.

Malachii 11-30-2005 06:37 AM

Re: 3/6 NL - Overplaying QQ?
 
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I dont know if a reasonable player calls the river with a worse hand than QQ

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Me neither, on the other hand there's $1200 in the pot. I'm not sure if I like the river push or not.

scdavis0 11-30-2005 06:53 AM

Re: 3/6 NL - Overplaying QQ?
 
Gotta push the river if the player sucks unless you hate money

although i wouldn't be too surprised to see KK here from a good player

fuzzbox 11-30-2005 07:27 AM

Re: 3/6 NL - Overplaying QQ?
 
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I dont know if a reasonable player calls the river with a worse hand than QQ

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Me neither, on the other hand there's $1200 in the pot. I'm not sure if I like the river push or not.

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We can always check behind.

fuzzbox 11-30-2005 07:28 AM

Re: 3/6 NL - Overplaying QQ?
 
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Gotta push the river if the player sucks unless you hate money

although i wouldn't be too surprised to see KK here from a good player

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Even sucky players can fold 99 to a river push.

KK/AA seems likely.

emil3000 11-30-2005 01:27 PM

Re: 3/6 NL - Overplaying QQ?
 
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Gotta push the river if the player sucks unless you hate money

although i wouldn't be too surprised to see KK here from a good player

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Even sucky players can fold 99 to a river push.

KK/AA seems likely.

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Yes. I am also not crazy about the flop raise.

Hattifnatt 11-30-2005 01:32 PM

Re: 3/6 NL - Overplaying QQ?
 
Given its 1200 in the pot and only 525 left to bet I like to bet this river because he will call with for example a jack.

hfrog355 11-30-2005 01:32 PM

Re: 3/6 NL - Overplaying QQ?
 
Call the flop.
Bet the turn.
If you still have company, check behind.

teamdonkey 11-30-2005 03:18 PM

Re: 3/6 NL - Overplaying QQ?
 
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Given its 1200 in the pot and only 525 left to bet I like to bet this river because he will call with for example a jack.

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if villain has a jack here, you really dont want to see what his other card is.

hero has villain covered by about $100, so the river push is really only $425 into a $1200 pot. Noone taking 88-1010 or QQ this far is laying it down now. more combinations of these hands than AA KK and JJ, and those seem less likely given the way the hand was played. I push here to.

not that i'm comfortable giving advice to people with 1k+ stacks... these hands really should be in mid/high.


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