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jt1 12-30-2005 06:30 AM

not sure how to play these
 
MP1 has TAGish stats after just 50 hands or so. Haven't noticed anything in particular about his play.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.16 BB

asdf1234 12-30-2005 07:09 AM

Re: not sure how to play these
 
Bleh, these have to be some of the most uncomfortable spots in the game. I think I probably fire again on the turn, but I don't really like it. If he's TAGish, and called your bet on a KKJ flop, it seems like he probably has some kind of hand. I dunno, I'm looking forward to see what others have to say.

12-30-2005 09:12 AM

Re: not sure how to play these
 
I'm b/f on the turn, c/f on the river against these stats. Anything but him laying it down on the turn is not a good sign for us out of position.

As played, villain musta had a good sense we had nothing after our turn check. If he reads us as TAG, then his river bet says he has us beat and we should have folded there for sure. Sure feels to me like your A lost to a boat...

12-30-2005 10:13 AM

Re: not sure how to play these
 
This is more appropriate for the Small Stakes Short-handed forum.

EDIT: My mistake. I didn't realize it was a converter error.

crunchy1 12-30-2005 10:16 AM

Re: not sure how to play these
 
[ QUOTE ]
This is more appropriate for the Small Stakes Short-handed forum.

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No it's not. This is from full ring. The 6max reference is a converter error.

OP: I'm firing one more barrel on the turn since we got it HU and assuming that Villian's WSD% (even over a small sample) isn't to large. If both called the flop I'm not putting any more bets in UI.

12-30-2005 10:20 AM

Re: not sure how to play these
 
Holy crap.

I stopped reading after "6 max". My bad.

12-30-2005 01:16 PM

Re: not sure how to play these
 
*grunch*
About the only hand you beat is a busted straight draw (like QT), but would he bet the turn if that were the case? If he's a TAG, he's probably slowplaying trip K's or a J that filled up on the river. Sure, you split against another ace. I would bet the turn and fold to a raise. If he smooth calls, guess check and call river unless you catch your ten, but I expect to see trip K's / two pair at least. Against other opponents, you may split here...but I think your hand is no good.

ScottieK

Joe Tall 12-30-2005 03:23 PM

Re: not sure how to play these
 
You can't call the turn, it's by far your worse option. You bet/fold or check/fold as you need to continue when you are HU here or just let it go. He could have a hand like 77 and it just calling but he's more likley holding is a Jack, the pot is small, let it go.

12-30-2005 03:33 PM

Re: not sure how to play these
 
[ QUOTE ]
About the only hand you beat is a busted straight draw (like QT),

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QT would raise the flop most of the time.

MrEngenic 12-30-2005 03:58 PM

Re: not sure how to play these
 
Bet/fold the turn. Check/calling down is the worst option IMO.


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