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Erik W 09-26-2005 03:59 AM

What hands to open first in from CO and hijack?
 
Hi!
What's your hand ranges to open from CO and Hijack when the players after you are normal TAGs or average loose players that is not overly aggressive?

If u have a TAG that steals around 35% what is your hand range to raise him on Button if he opens in CO?

If u r in SB and a 35% stealer opens on Button what range do u 3Bet him with there?

I think I am way too tight when it comes to 3Betting when players open in steal positions.

thx guys

MyTurn2Raise 09-26-2005 04:13 AM

Re: What hands to open first in from CO and hijack?
 
Here's a good thread on this

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...t=all&vc=1

Evan 09-26-2005 04:25 AM

Re: What hands to open first in from CO and hijack?
 
Just be aware Nate's simulation used a 2/3 blind structure.

mtdoak 09-26-2005 08:22 AM

Re: What hands to open first in from CO and hijack?
 
Typically your throwing away multiway hands. I personally will raise any Ace, K9 or better, any two cards 10 or higher, any PP 5 or higher, though, raising with any PP isn't bad. Its not bad to throw in a trash hand once in a while, esp if you get a good flop and get to show it down. You want people itching to playback at you with marginal hands. In the SB, if your hand is good enough to see the flop, you should 3 bet against a steal. Giving the BB 5-1 on his call is just a plain mistake and it'll make it right for him to see it with a wide variety of hands. If he's stealing that much, Probably 3 betting KT or better.

@bsolute_luck 09-26-2005 10:07 AM

Re: What hands to open first in from CO and hijack?
 
noob question: what position is hijack?

Erik W 09-26-2005 10:58 AM

Re: What hands to open first in from CO and hijack?
 
hijack is the position before CO

crunchy1 09-26-2005 11:14 AM

Re: What hands to open first in from CO and hijack?
 
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I personally will raise any Ace, K9 or better, any two cards 10 or higher, any PP 5 or higher, though, raising with any PP isn't bad.

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If this is your stealing range (as opposed to your defending range) I think you're too tight. What games are you playing? How selective are you (not just in game selection but also relative position)?

mack848 09-26-2005 11:24 AM

Re: What hands to open first in from CO and hijack?
 
I would be interested to know the range of hands that you open raise in the CO, vs. typical (not too aggresive) blinds?

I raise a similar range to Mtdoak.

deception5 09-26-2005 11:26 AM

Re: What hands to open first in from CO and hijack?
 
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If this is your stealing range (as opposed to your defending range) I think you're too tight. What games are you playing? How selective are you (not just in game selection but also relative position)?

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Really? I thought this range looked good.

Erik W 09-26-2005 11:32 AM

Re: What hands to open first in from CO and hijack?
 
I have thought some about this and this is what I came up with. Please tell me what I might have to change.

The opponnet is an aggressive TAG that steals 35%.
45% from Button and like 25% from CO.

I 3bet on Button with 77+,AJ+,ATs+,KQ+ against a CO raise
I 3bet in SB with 66+,AT+,A9s+,KJ+,KTs+,QJs against a Button raise

does this seem about right?


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