Re: Specific preflop plays
 

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I really hate KTo. Can somebody convince me to play this?

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Sure, if you enjoy the aggravation of burning up chips when you hit against the passive limper who doesn't raise with A 10, KJ and KQ. Miniscule ev at best- not worth getting into trouble over IMO.

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How about when we hit vs dominated hands like JT/QT/K9s, which are more likely to have been limped in than AT and KQ.

Re: Specific preflop plays
 

Here's a question: Take the same instance of the KT examples but make it KTs.

Is this a raise in both situations?

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I apologize that the original post was a little bit vague, as I had intended to include necessary preflop information. The intention was supposed to be that the loose-bad player was limping in EP while the loose/decent player was in MP. The loose/decent player would have a greater range of limping hands, but will generally play them well postflop.

Re: Specific preflop plays
 

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Here's a question: Take the same instance of the KT examples but make it KTs.

Is this a raise in both situations?

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This is probably right on the cutoff as well. I'd probably raise it with 3 limpers with KTs, limp with only 2.

Re: Specific preflop plays
 

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Here's a question: Take the same instance of the KT examples but make it KTs.

Is this a raise in both situations?

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yes

Re: Specific preflop plays
 

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Here's a question: Take the same instance of the KT examples but make it KTs.

Is this a raise in both situations?

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With salivating enthusiasm.

Re: Specific preflop plays
 

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I really hate KTo. Can somebody convince me to play this?

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Sure, if you enjoy the aggravation of burning up chips when you hit against the passive limper who doesn't raise with A 10, KJ and KQ. Miniscule ev at best- not worth getting into trouble over IMO.

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How about when we hit vs dominated hands like JT/QT/K9s, which are more likely to have been limped in than AT and KQ.

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Point taken. The personal comfort level is what I was getting at. It would be nice to see some big databases chime in.

Re: Specific preflop plays
 

If there was some chance of getting the blinds out I would raise AT. If there isn't... MAYBE I'd still raise with 2 limpers.

I am not playing KT at all in this situation.

Re: Specific preflop plays
 

The only item that really surprises me in these results is that people are more willing to play KTo, a hand that doesn't play well multiway, when there are 3 limpers instead of 2. Is this because the additional player is poor or because you (the people who called with 3 but not 2 limpers) like this hand against more players?

Re: Specific preflop plays
 

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The only item that really surprises me in these results is that people are more willing to play KTo, a hand that doesn't play well multiway, when there are 3 limpers instead of 2. Is this because the additional player is poor or because you (the people who called with 3 but not 2 limpers) like this hand against more players?

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According to SSHE, top pair hands benefit more from dead money than they lose to the pot being multiway.