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12-07-2005 12:43 PM

Common Situation / Simple Questions
 
Villain looks TAGgish. (27/15/2.2 after 630 hands)

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero

Does anyone 3-bet or lay down on the flop? If not.....
Is this a standard fold or standard calldown for you guys?

Kimpan 12-07-2005 12:44 PM

Re: Common Situation / Simple Question
 
for me it's a standard calldown...

Ryan11 12-07-2005 12:52 PM

Re: Common Situation / Simple Question
 
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for me it's a standard calldown...

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SparkyDog 12-07-2005 06:49 PM

Re: Common Situation / Simple Questions
 
I don't like calling down on a K35r board against a TAGish player. You're getting ~3-1 to call down effectively (from the flop raise), and I don't think he's bluffing 25% of the time.

Victor 12-07-2005 06:55 PM

Re: Common Situation / Simple Questions
 
call down unless you have a very good read on the player. i see other tags try to push me off hands all the time. im sure they look at your stats and think, oh heres a tight 2+2er i can put a move on. idiots.

luckyharr 12-07-2005 07:06 PM

Re: Common Situation / Simple Questions
 
Call down. If you were in villain's shoes on that flop and had 88, wouldn't you raise? Since he'd play the middle pairs and decent kings the same, call down seems like the best play. As Victor said he could just be trying to push you off a hand, too.

12-07-2005 07:15 PM

Re: Common Situation / Simple Questions
 
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call down unless you have a very good read on the player.

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I agree. Calling down is the unexploitable strategy. If your read on villain removes hands like 66, 77, AQ from his range of flop value raises (which would constitute a very good read) then I may be ok with a laydown strategy.

ArturiusX 12-07-2005 07:20 PM

Re: Common Situation / Simple Questions
 
Call down, if not for the meta game.


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