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surfinillini 12-15-2005 12:05 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
this game is really rough shorthanded...who is up besides AVO [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

12-15-2005 12:05 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
Muknflop, I agree in part with what you said. Tuchman has a huge ego and it was injured yesterday. But Tuchman's play yesterday and tonight are basically the same way he ALWAYS plays. People simply cannot change their playing pattern in extraordinary ways night to night. Tuchman, is a terrible player, who has a bankroll. Anyone who has a bankroll can play poker for a living, till that bankroll runs out. I won't speculate on Tuchman's finances, but I know he is not a winning player. How can Tuchman continue to sit in the broadcast both and make fun of players, as he has done in the past, and be taking with any crediability? He can't.

12-15-2005 12:06 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
wrestling=gay.

Might as well get a fruity drink with a splash of Malibu, Robert!

12-15-2005 12:07 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
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this game is really rough shorthanded...who is up besides AVO [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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avo is down the most

surfinillini 12-15-2005 12:07 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
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Muknflop, I agree in part with what you said. Tuchman has a huge ego and it was injured yesterday. But Tuchman's play yesterday and tonight are basically the same way he ALWAYS plays. People simply cannot change their playing pattern in extraordinary ways night to night. Tuchman, is a terrible player, who has a bankroll. Anyone who has a bankroll can play poker for a living, till that bankroll runs out. I won't speculate on Tuchman's finances, but I know he is not a winning player. How can Tuchman continue to sit in the broadcast both and make fun of players, as he has done in the past, and be taking with any crediability? He can't.

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man do you have a score to settle?

I think every single post you make is extremely biased due to not liking the PERSON, regardless of their game.

If your tone even somewhat objective you would have a valid argument but your words are saturated with bias.

spsurfin_Michael 12-15-2005 12:08 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
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wrestling=gay.

Might as well get a fruity drink with a splash of Malibu, Robert!

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My thoughts exactly

surfinillini 12-15-2005 12:08 AM

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this game is really rough shorthanded...who is up besides AVO [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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avo is down the most

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if you think I do not know that then you are unbright [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

chucksim 12-15-2005 12:08 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
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hey chucksim what does the back of the shirt say on your avatar? I have always wanted to know.

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It says "I am a bomb technician. If you see me running try to keep up." Unfortunately it doesn't come out well in the avatar.

12-15-2005 12:11 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
You are so wrong. From a person who is usaully at the receiving enf of David's rants, I can honestly tell you that he respects the players, but perhaps not the play. He can analyze plays terrifically and can speak to the +EV move. Because poker is one long continuous session, he can't be judged by 1, 2 or 10 sessions. Cut the guy some slack. Walk a mile in his shoes.

12-15-2005 12:13 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
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this game is really rough shorthanded...who is up besides AVO [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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avo is down the most

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if you think I do not know that then you are unbright [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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ok didnt realize it was you that posted that lol

BlackRain 12-15-2005 12:14 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
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Muknflop, I agree in part with what you said. Tuchman has a huge ego and it was injured yesterday. But Tuchman's play yesterday and tonight are basically the same way he ALWAYS plays. People simply cannot change their playing pattern in extraordinary ways night to night. Tuchman, is a terrible player, who has a bankroll. Anyone who has a bankroll can play poker for a living, till that bankroll runs out. I won't speculate on Tuchman's finances, but I know he is not a winning player. How can Tuchman continue to sit in the broadcast both and make fun of players, as he has done in the past, and be taking with any crediability? He can't.

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Whoa, serious axe to grind LOL. Sure Tuchmann didn't own YOU a bunch of times and the said bruised ego is yours? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

surfinillini 12-15-2005 12:15 AM

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Whoa, serious axe to grind LOL. Sure Tuchmann didn't own YOU a bunch of times and the said bruised ego is yours? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Flawlessly executed

12-15-2005 12:16 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
Bart I don't know Tuchman, I am not joking. I'm a former Southern Californian who used to play at the Bike long before you worked there. I know Tony, from another casino in SoCal, and Tony knows I'm a solid player. I wish I didn't mind travelling as I would love to play Tuchman heads up or at the same table with him.

cwsiggy 12-15-2005 12:16 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
No limit can be frustrating when card dead and I'm sure Tuch is getting annoyed knowing he is one the better player here.
dat no limit baby!

Russ McGinley 12-15-2005 12:17 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
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I don't know Tuchman

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Well I'd say that makes you an expert then. Well played, sir!

mike22nc 12-15-2005 12:18 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
Was this chick serious when she said she'd raise with 3 aces in omaha? Where can I play with her?

MINETZ 12-15-2005 12:19 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
ummm pokerstars doesnt spread 75/150, what site or limit did you mean?

spsurfin_Michael 12-15-2005 12:21 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
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Tuchman has a huge ego and it was injured yesterday.

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First off, that is an assumption for which you have no empirical evidence to even make such a supposition.


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Tuchman's play yesterday and tonight are basically the same way he ALWAYS plays.

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Will you please provide proof of this statement? You must have records of all the times you have sat and played with Dave.


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People simply cannot change their playing pattern in extraordinary ways night to night.

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This is a fallacious statement based on faulty logic. You will need to intellectually step up your arguments if you want to be taken seriously.

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Tuchman, is a terrible player, who has a bankroll. Anyone who has a bankroll can play poker for a living, till that bankroll runs out. I won't speculate on Tuchman's finances, but I know he is not a winning player. How can Tuchman continue to sit in the broadcast both and make fun of players, as he has done in the past, and be taking with any crediability? He can't.

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Where to start with opinion? It is easy to fabricate facts to support a supposition and satisfy your own ego. You have made an effort to discredit a player with nothing but irrational and illogical arguments for which you can offer no evidence. It seems reasonable to conclude that your ego has clouded your judgment and your emotionally immaturity has manifested itself in your fallacious thinking.

LazyRobot 12-15-2005 12:22 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
O8 they do.

Eurotrash 12-15-2005 12:23 AM

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ummm pokerstars doesnt spread 75/150, what site or limit did you mean?

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omaha8

mike22nc 12-15-2005 12:23 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
Wait a second, these guys are softplaying each other? Does that not lead to other situations which could definitely be construed as cheating?

surfinillini 12-15-2005 12:24 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
flawless victory...fatality...SPsurfin wins [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

chucksim 12-15-2005 12:24 AM

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Was this chick serious when she said she'd raise with 3 aces in omaha? Where can I play with her?

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Play with Siren at Stars. I'm sure she'd love to have you.

BarronVangorToth 12-15-2005 12:25 AM

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Wait a second, these guys are softplaying each other? Does that not lead to other situations which could definitely be construed as cheating?

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In theory. But it's a reality, and you'll oftentimes find yourself on a table where guys / husband-wife softplay each other.

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

cwsiggy 12-15-2005 12:25 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
Shirley, if 5k won't put a dent in your bankroll, it seems to me you can play 75/150 150*500=75k 5k loss from 75k is dent. Doesn't one need even less than say 500bb for Omaha h/l cause of th lower fluctuations. Get in there!!!

BarronVangorToth 12-15-2005 12:26 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
Shirley, if Bart ever writes that article for your site that he has promised you for like a year, make sure he has a special section detailing his hair methodology.

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

12-15-2005 12:27 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
Bart really says some gay things sometimes who cares what he uses in his hair

12-15-2005 12:30 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
they ought to hang both of those soft playing fools

surfinillini 12-15-2005 12:30 AM

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who cares what Bart really says

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FYP [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

cwsiggy 12-15-2005 12:30 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
update- sorry , don't feel like removing the 0's.
Man, there really is something to this Greenstein coaching.

Darrell Gigabet Dicken $935,000 0 0
Joe Cassidy $880,000 0 0
Patrik Antonius $870,000 0 0
Phil Laak $730,000 0 0
Brad Yukon Booth $640,000 0 0
Doyle Brunson $635,000 0 0
Adam Friedman $600,000 0 0
Joanne J.J. Liu $560,000 0 0
James Van Alstyne $470,000 0 0
Michael Gracz $425,000 0 0
Joe Sebock $410,000 0 0
Chris Bell $365,000 0 0
Barny Boatman $365,000 0 0
Eskimo Clark $350,000 0 0
Jeff Rine $327,000 0 0
AVERAGE $308,333 0 0
Loi Phan $285,000 0 0
Davood Mehrmand $255,000 0 0
Kevin Song $240,000 0 0
Frank Vizza $230,000 0 0
Michael Yoshino $230,000 0 0
Steve Rassi $210,000 0 0
Mads Andersen $200,000 0 0
David Levi $195,000 0 0
Alex Prendes $175,000 0 0
Peter Costa $150,000 0 0
Matt Smith $150,000 0 0
Don Zewin $145,000 0 0
Alan Goehring $145,000 0 0
Barry Greenstein $135,000 0 0
Dennis Waterman $125,000 0 0
Marco Traniello $100,000 0 0
Gabe Thaler $95,000 0 0
Terri Evanowski $90,000 0 0

ripwalk 12-15-2005 12:31 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
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Bart really says some gay things sometimes who cares what he uses in his hair

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I found it quite fascinating.

12-15-2005 12:31 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
spsurfin_Michael
YAWN

12-15-2005 12:31 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
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Wait a second, these guys are softplaying each other? Does that not lead to other situations which could definitely be construed as cheating?

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In theory. But it's a reality, and you'll oftentimes find yourself on a table where guys / husband-wife softplay each other.

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

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I used to play at a casino that had a rule against husband and wife playing at the same table. But they waved the rule for one couple. They were about 80 years old, and they went at each other like fighting cocks.

I think players should be told that soft-playing is wrong. Many just don't know. I'll tell them, if they don't look too mean. If they don't stop, I'll get up unless the game is real soft.

spsurfin_Michael 12-15-2005 12:33 AM

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spsurfin_Michael
YAWN

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Does anyone know where I can find a dictionary to look up this impressive agrument?

whalekock 12-15-2005 12:33 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
Isn't David an actor? Vaudeville maybe?

BarronVangorToth 12-15-2005 12:34 AM

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I'll tell them, if they don't look too mean. If they don't stop, I'll get up unless the game is real soft.

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There's no reason to ever tell anyone about the rules in a poker room -- your average person is there to have fun, have a few drinks, a few laughs, and blow X hundred / thousand dollars. Why rules lawyer them? Do anything and everything you can to make the environment fun and frivolous.

That's at least how I see it...

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

Russ McGinley 12-15-2005 12:34 AM

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spsurfin_Michael
YAWN

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Man, that's a great response. I can see why you took so long to formulate this expert play. Michael, you might just want to concede now. This point, I mean, WOW. It's like, I was thinking it, and then BAM, he said it. Just awesome dude. Well done.

surfinillini 12-15-2005 12:34 AM

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Isn't David an actor? Vaudeville maybe?

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julliard

12-15-2005 12:34 AM

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rtx=douchebag

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FYP

Ruddiger 12-15-2005 12:36 AM

Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (12/14) (25/50 NL)
 
I love the "secret" omaha talk.
I'm sure nobody else has ever looked into omaha before.


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