8-16 1/2 kill: Red queens, black flop
 

Live 9 handed 8-16 game with ~5 to every flop. All three villians are extremely loose preflop and postflop. SB is aggressive capable of betting and raising a draw. BB and UTG are somewhat passive.
Hero is UTG+1 with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Preflop: UTG calls, Hero raises, 5 folds, SB, BB, UTG all call

Flop: (4 players 8sb)
K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB checks his hole cards and bets, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

SB checking his cards before he bets tells me a) he doesn't have a flush already, b) he does have a flush draw. The other two are loose enough to call with any piece of this board including gutshots and any pair. I thought this might be a good spot to wait for a safe turn card to raise. Also I was very certain that SB would 3 bet his flush draw and I thought this wasn't a good spot to get in a raising war with such a vulnerable hand.


Turn:(4 players 8 bb)
3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB bets, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero raises, all call.

Ok well the safe card hit so its time to raise. I was planning on folding to a raise or 3 bet.

River: (4 players 16 bb)
J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
everybody checks

I don't know what do you guys think? thanks

Re: 8-16 1/2 kill: Red queens, black flop
 

I don't think you're raising for value often enough here to make a turn raise worthwhile. If you were second to act after the SB and could face the field with two cold, then that'd be a different story.