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private joker 12-17-2005 10:42 PM

A-rag in a tough spot
 
No read on villain.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9 BB

SteveL91 12-17-2005 10:47 PM

Re: A-rag in a tough spot
 
To be honest, I think I'd be more inclined to just c/f the turn. I suspect you're ahead here so very rarely that the bet/fold is just a waste of a BB.

brettbrettr 12-17-2005 10:49 PM

Re: A-rag in a tough spot
 
why did you bet the flop?

private joker 12-17-2005 10:53 PM

Re: A-rag in a tough spot
 
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why did you bet the flop?

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So the PFR would blow away the field with hands like KK/JJ/KQ. If he can get another A that's chopping with/beating me to fold, that rules.

brettbrettr 12-17-2005 10:55 PM

Re: A-rag in a tough spot
 
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why did you bet the flop?

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So the PFR would blow away the field with hands like KK/JJ/KQ. If he can get another A that's chopping with/beating me to fold, that rules.

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Why do you think he's going to raise with any of those hands? Are you raising with those hands? I'm kind of not, but maybe I'm not playing well...

McGahee 12-17-2005 11:02 PM

Re: A-rag in a tough spot
 
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why did you bet the flop?

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So the PFR would blow away the field with hands like KK/JJ/KQ. If he can get another A that's chopping with/beating me to fold, that rules.

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Why do you think he's going to raise with any of those hands? Are you raising with those hands? I'm kind of not, but maybe I'm not playing well...

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I'm not either, but lots of players even with good stats seem to think it's "weak" to call or fold with those hands.

toss 12-17-2005 11:09 PM

Re: A-rag in a tough spot
 
I'd check/fold the turn. It seems BB has an Ace and will be seeing a showdown no matter what falls.

private joker 12-17-2005 11:34 PM

Re: A-rag in a tough spot
 
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It seems BB has an Ace and will be seeing a showdown no matter what falls.

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But I'm not sure of this until he raises the turn. The pot is 6BBs on the turn -- don't you think he folds a non-K hand at least 16% of the time? If not, then yes my bet is bad.

12-18-2005 12:03 AM

Re: A-rag in a tough spot
 
Fold the flop, I know we shouldt fold for 1 bet, but really, you dont have jack, and look at the board.

toss 12-18-2005 12:46 AM

Re: A-rag in a tough spot
 
I'm having a hard time putting villain on a hand that he'll raise the flop with, but won't call down on the turn. I don't think he's going to fold two pair much and will call down instead. He'd have to have a hand like A9s which is unlikely.


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