A questionable hand with DanDruff and another young player
 

Bellagio 80/160 full table. I destroyed dandruff at the 3 handed game (better than avg cards and good play) and I'm continuing to run/play well at the full table. He's running like horseshit and is down maybe 2.5 racks in an hour or 2 at this point. He's noticibly frustrated. The other villain is a 23ish year old kid who thinks he plays well. He has a very "inside the box" view of the game. He also limps a lot more than others. He open limped in the CO with KJo last orbit. His post-flop play is reasonable. A little more aggressive than most 80/160 players but not quite as much as the top players. I'm pretty sure at this point he thinks I'm solid.

Dandruff raises in the high-jack, young guy calls, I call with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button. bad player in bb calls.

Flop K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

bb checks, dandruff bets, kid calls, I call, bb folds.

Turn J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Dandruf checks, kid bets, I raise (intending to put 0 more money in the pot) Thoughts?

Re: A questionable hand with DanDruff and another young player
 

flop call seems pretty light to me.

Re: A questionable hand with DanDruff and another young player
 

I don't like flop call personally. Have no clean outs and could easily be drawing to runners. Since you did see the turn, i like the raise

Re: A questionable hand with DanDruff and another young player
 

I like it. I think the kids most likely hands are 66-99. You could be behind QJs or AJs, but I think you are good vs. his likely range and the raise makes sure Druff folds something like AQ.

Re: A questionable hand with DanDruff and another young player
 

you're getting 8.5-1 on the flop overcalling. how does this amount to a call?

Re: A questionable hand with DanDruff and another young player
 

I think too many things have to fall perfectly into place in order to make this flop call a profitable one.

Dan not having a K or nice pair (completely likely, so that's ok) PLUS the kid cold calling with the intention of making some sort of play on the turn with a hand he'll release (or that's worse than jacks or tens) PLUS you hit something nice on the turn like a backdoor draw.

Re: A questionable hand with DanDruff and another young player
 

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I think too many things have to fall perfectly into place in order to make this flop call a profitable one.

Dan not having a K or nice pair (completely likely, so that's ok) PLUS the kid cold calling with the intention of making some sort of play on the turn with a hand he'll release (or that's worse than jacks or tens) PLUS you hit something nice on the turn like a backdoor draw.

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yeah, and even if neither of them ahve something good, they could still have AJ, KJ, QJ, AT, KT, QT

Re: A questionable hand with DanDruff and another young player
 

I would fold pre-flop.
I would fold the flop.
I would not outplay me.

I would fold in the sea.
I would fold on the land.
I would not play this hand.

-f

Re: A questionable hand with DanDruff and another young player
 

Very good turn play but I too don't get the flop play unless you felt that Dandruff (because of his then mindset) would checkfold the turn if he did not yet have a pair.

Most guys at this level have good follow through on the turn particularly when the flop is benign. Nevertheless, I can't imagine that you called the flop with a view to raising Druff even if you missed.

Re: A questionable hand with DanDruff and another young player
 

would dan bet QQ here on the turn? cuz if you got him to laydown QQ or TT that would be awesome.

preflop is fine, flop is meh, i love the turn.

this is also a hand where i would want dan to post his thoughts. seeing as he's really insecure, i'm sure he's already looked at this post