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flawless_victory 10-14-2005 01:24 AM

PARTY 30. MORE PSYCHOTIC PLAY.
 
villain is slovenian guy. v aggresive. v
suspicious.
Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>.

im folding to a threebet.

wheelz 10-14-2005 01:32 AM

Re: PARTY 30. MORE PSYCHOTIC PLAY.
 
i know you're just going to tell me that he won't 3-bet bluff on the river, but anyways, against a very aggressive very suspcious player i am showing this down so i'd just call the river bet.

OrianasDaad 10-14-2005 01:39 AM

Re: PARTY 30. MORE PSYCHOTIC PLAY.
 
Don't raise the river if you are going to fold to a 3-bet against a tricky, aggressive player.

4-straight, 3-flush, a number of possible two-pair holdings... but you know this already, or you wouldn't be playing 30/60. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Calling doesn't look to be much more or less EV than raising.

bugstud 10-14-2005 01:42 AM

Re: PARTY 30. MORE PSYCHOTIC PLAY.
 
stupid shady slovenians

Nigel 10-14-2005 01:43 AM

Re: PARTY 30. MORE PSYCHOTIC PLAY.
 
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stupid shady slovenians

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kind of annoying that they win so damn much!

wackjob 10-14-2005 01:56 AM

Re: PARTY 30. MORE PSYCHOTIC PLAY.
 
is he very suspicious because hes Slovenian, or just because?

sthief09 10-14-2005 02:07 AM

Re: PARTY 30. MORE PSYCHOTIC PLAY.
 
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i know you're just going to tell me that he won't 3-bet bluff on the river, but anyways, against a very aggressive very suspcious player i am showing this down so i'd just call the river bet.

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I hate quoting and not writing anything but you summed up my thoughts perfectly. this is one of my biggest philosophies. don't make a thin raise or a thin value bet against a LAG if you have to make a marginal fold

ALL1N 10-14-2005 02:23 AM

Re: PARTY 30. MORE PSYCHOTIC PLAY.
 
I don't think the river fold (to a 3-bet) is marginal at all. If a LAG is bluffing here, he'll CR.

Anyway, I don't like the river raise. I find it real hard to believe he's bet/calling a worse hand here.

sthief09 10-14-2005 02:28 AM

Re: PARTY 30. MORE PSYCHOTIC PLAY.
 
I just hate folding to them. I feel like any fold to him in a big pot is marginal unless we know they play reasonably. I wasn't even thinking bluff. I was thinking randomly played KT or something

a hand I played today... I have J2s in the BB and get a free play. flop is JJ4 and there is a super LAG behind me. SB bets 3-handed, I call, LAG calls. turn puts a 3-flush, it's checked to me, and I check figuring he'll take a stab at it because he's super aggro, but he checks behind. river is a blank. the SB bets, I raise, and the LAG 3-bets. SB folds and I pay him off. he had QJ and checked through the turn then 3-bet the river with trips and NONE of the suit. I'm still baffled by his play

baronzeus 10-14-2005 02:30 AM

Re: PARTY 30. MORE PSYCHOTIC PLAY.
 
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I just hate folding to them.

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this is why my went to showdown is 37.5 over my last 80K hands.


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