Stars 500k, DblGutShot makes a call
 

I was watching the Stars 500k when it was down to 2 tables when this hand came up. On PocketFives, I read that this guy is practically legendary on Stars.


PokerStars Game #3372832440: Tournament #15976800, Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (20000/40000) - 2005/12/18 - 22:21:02 (ET)
Table '15976800 463' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: suv69er (356481 in chips)
Seat 2: bogav47 (1538557 in chips)
Seat 3: D-ROY (350511 in chips)
Seat 4: bocaorange (354154 in chips)
Seat 5: Eternauta (74622 in chips)
Seat 6: U#10DinkyDao (258970 in chips)
Seat 8: dblgutshot (499307 in chips)
Seat 9: uks86 (352248 in chips)
suv69er: posts the ante 2000
bogav47: posts the ante 2000
D-ROY: posts the ante 2000
bocaorange: posts the ante 2000
Eternauta: posts the ante 2000
U#10DinkyDao: posts the ante 2000
dblgutshot: posts the ante 2000
uks86: posts the ante 2000
bogav47: posts small blind 20000
D-ROY: posts big blind 40000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
bocaorange: folds
Eternauta: folds
U#10DinkyDao: folds
dblgutshot: raises 60000 to 100000
uks86: raises 250248 to 350248 and is all-in
suv69er: folds
bogav47: folds
D-ROY: folds
dblgutshot: calls 250248
*** FLOP *** [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
*** TURN *** [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
*** RIVER *** [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dblgutshot: shows [3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] (two pair, Fours and Threes)
uks86: shows [K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] (a pair of Fours)
dblgutshot collected 776496 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 776496 | Rake 0
Board [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
Seat 1: suv69er (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bogav47 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: D-ROY (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: bocaorange folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Eternauta folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: U#10DinkyDao folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dblgutshot showed [3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] and won (776496) with two pair, Fours and Threes
Seat 9: uks86 showed [K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] and lost with a pair of Fours


I checked the HH, and I watched for 19 hands (only sample I have). DblGutShot only raised once in that time, and uks86 had not been in a single pot in that span. Is that a big gamble or is that an easy call, getting 2 to 1?

Re: Stars 500k, DblGutShot makes a call
 

19 hands is not a lot.

Pretty standard call with that price I'd say.

Re: Stars 500k, DblGutShot makes a call
 

context is everything - when there were still 2 tables left, i had seen others come over the top of dbl's raises and force him to fold. he may have simply decided that it was time to take a stand, especially since the initial raise left him short-stacked.

Re: Stars 500k, DblGutShot makes a call
 

isn't doublegutshot DN?

SAM

Re: Stars 500k, DblGutShot makes a call
 

When you're getting 2:1 odds, you need an excuse to fold, not an excuse to call. Except in extreme bubble situations, you should essentially never fold a PP HU getting 2:1 because there's no reasonable range you can put your opponent on that justifies this:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 37.4300 % 37.14% 00.29% { 2c2d }
Hand 2: 62.5700 % 62.28% 00.29% { KK+, AKs, AKo }

Re: Stars 500k, DblGutShot makes a call
 

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context is everything - when there were still 2 tables left, i had seen others come over the top of dbl's raises and force him to fold. he may have simply decided that it was time to take a stand, especially since the initial raise left him short-stacked.

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Context is completely unnecessary here. This is an instacall.

Re: Stars 500k, DblGutShot makes a call
 

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

410,952,960 games 0.422 secs 973,822,180 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 32.1975 % 31.94% 00.26% { 33 }
Hand 2: 67.8025 % 67.54% 00.26% { JJ+, AKs, AKo }






and in a situation like this it might be better to pass up near breakeven plays.

Re: Stars 500k, DblGutShot makes a call
 

ok - thanks for the math in your other post.

Re: Stars 500k, DblGutShot makes a call
 

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

410,952,960 games 0.422 secs 973,822,180 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 32.1975 % 31.94% 00.26% { 33 }
Hand 2: 67.8025 % 67.54% 00.26% { JJ+, AKs, AKo }






and in a situation like this it might be better to pass up near breakeven plays.

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Yeah, you're obviously right, Exit. My post was way too strongly worded. In this spot, I think JJ+, AK is WAY too tight, but you know that anyway.

Anyway, folding PPs HU getting 2:1 on an all in is sometimes okay but usually isn't. How's that?

Re: Stars 500k, DblGutShot makes a call
 

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isn't doublegutshot DN?

SAM

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No I think DN is doublesuited