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Taraz 10-05-2005 04:04 PM

$55: QQ - Warning! Post flop play.
 
Anybody play this any differently?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

MP2 (t1110)
CO (t730)
Button (t1120)
SB (t1780)
BB (t2065)
UTG (t960)
Hero (t930)
MP1 (t1305)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls t75, BB calls t60.

Flop: (t270) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t180</font>, SB calls t180, BB folds.

Turn: (t630) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t630) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t50</font>, Hero calls t50.

Final Pot: t730

Karak567 10-05-2005 04:06 PM

Re: $55: QQ - Warning! Post flop play.
 
I am shoving the turn.

Bonafone 10-05-2005 04:23 PM

Re: $55: QQ - Warning! Post flop play.
 
I would definately bet the turn. Depending on the opponent my bet would be anywhere from 250 to all in.

MegaBet 10-05-2005 04:24 PM

Re: $55: QQ - Warning! Post flop play.
 
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I would definately bet the turn. Depending on the opponent my bet would be anywhere from 250 to all in.

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Agreed, unless I have a read that my opponent slowplays flopped trips. Then I would be VERY careful.

downtown 10-05-2005 04:32 PM

Re: $55: QQ - Warning! Post flop play.
 
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I would definately bet the turn. Depending on the opponent my bet would be anywhere from 250 to all in.

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Eh, I would just shove the turn. With Hero having approximately the amount of the pot behind, maybe you can get (unlikely) straight or flush draws to fold.

pineapple888 10-05-2005 04:38 PM

Re: $55: QQ - Warning! Post flop play.
 
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I would definately bet the turn. Depending on the opponent my bet would be anywhere from 250 to all in.

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Eh, I would just shove the turn. With Hero having approximately the amount of the pot behind, maybe you can get (unlikely) straight or flush draws to fold.

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Huh? If you bet the pot on the turn, you'd be thrilled to have draws come along.

Unlike everyone else so far, I'm taking exactly the line OP did, unless I have a read that he's a total donk. The guy's flat-called me twice.

Bonafone 10-05-2005 04:43 PM

Re: $55: QQ - Warning! Post flop play.
 
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I would definately bet the turn. Depending on the opponent my bet would be anywhere from 250 to all in.

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Eh, I would just shove the turn. With Hero having approximately the amount of the pot behind, maybe you can get (unlikely) straight or flush draws to fold.

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So by pushing you get the draws to fold and trips and some jacks to call. I don't like that.

fnord_too 10-05-2005 04:58 PM

Re: $55: QQ - Warning! Post flop play.
 
That is exactly how I'd play it*. My flop bet would likely be 175 or 200 because I don't like to type numbers [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

*If I had a particular read on villain, like he would pay off with hands like 77 I may punish him more post flop, but your line is my standard.

fnord_too 10-05-2005 05:01 PM

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I am shoving the turn.

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I hate that unless you have reason to believe villain pays off way too much. You will always get called by better hands and worse hands/draws will almost always fold. You cannot really bet enough to make the draws get the wrong price since a c/r push makes you want to puke since the stacks will give villains push some weight.

downtown 10-05-2005 05:01 PM

Re: $55: QQ - Warning! Post flop play.
 
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I would definately bet the turn. Depending on the opponent my bet would be anywhere from 250 to all in.

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Eh, I would just shove the turn. With Hero having approximately the amount of the pot behind, maybe you can get (unlikely) straight or flush draws to fold.

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Huh? If you bet the pot on the turn, you'd be thrilled to have draws come along.

Unlike everyone else so far, I'm taking exactly the line OP did, unless I have a read that he's a total donk. The guy's flat-called me twice.

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Ok, you're right, fold or pay.


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