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Tommy Angelo 12-07-2005 10:36 PM

time-pot hand
 
$20-40 blinds NLHE at Lucky Chances. The collection is $7 per player per half-hour. We almost always do time pots. If the pot has $200 (or more) of called money in it, then the winner of the pot pays the time for all players who do not have a missed blind button. (Players with a missed blind button pay their own $7.)

On this hand, it was a time pot, and the collection was $63.

Three players limped in for $40 each. I was in the small blind. Stacks of the players in this hand were 2K to 7K and I had 5K. Nobody was gambling with me at the time even a little bit. In two hours, I'd won every pot I bet at or raised without showing a hand. My average bet size was $100. My average raise size was $200. I think the secret to NLHE for me is to completely miss every flop. I don't think I can lose when that happens.

So on this hand, when it was my turn, the pot was $180. It cost me $20 to call, so if I called, that would make it a time pot. In other words, it cost me $83 to call. Or put another way, it cost me $20 to call, but the pot was really $117, not $180. Or, the way I think of it is, it was going to cost me $20 for the opportunity to lose $63. I had AK. That's a flop-hitting hand. And if that wasn't bad enough, I was going to be first all the way no matter what. I went ahead and mucked it.


Tommy

lapoker17 12-07-2005 10:46 PM

Re: time-pot hand
 
Hi Tommy - I pay my own time all the time. It allows me to avoid spots like this.

durrrr 12-07-2005 11:03 PM

Re: time-pot hand
 
i can understand folding KT there... AK has equity 5 way, and is also not hard to play (especially in a limped in pot). This fold is bad.

BobboFitos 12-07-2005 11:08 PM

Re: time-pot hand
 
standard

12-07-2005 11:20 PM

Re: time-pot hand
 
I dont get it. You are getting 5:1 on your call with AK?

Mens Rea 12-07-2005 11:36 PM

Re: time-pot hand
 
If this is the strategy, wouldn't it be best just to fold every time there was a timed pot? You'd be playing rake-free.

whitelime 12-07-2005 11:50 PM

Re: time-pot hand
 
If you have AA, you're avg profit > $63...so yeah you'd be playing rake-free but you're giving up potential profits.

12-08-2005 12:05 AM

Re: time-pot hand
 
i think 'ak' is the sound you make due to agreed time collection here. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

AZK 12-08-2005 12:10 AM

Re: time-pot hand
 
If you raise, and steal all the blinds, you don't have to pay time, how come that wasn't an option? Time pots are the nuts when you are running cold.

Matt Flynn 12-08-2005 12:15 AM

Re: time-pot hand
 
Beautiful. But no "accidental" show? They'd be folding TPTK for a week after that.


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