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SheetWise 07-25-2005 02:20 PM

Red / Black Cards. Puzzle
 
This surprised me.

A single red card is removed from a standard 52 card deck. Then 13 cards are drawn and found to be the same color. What is the probability that they are black?

CallMeIshmael 07-25-2005 02:29 PM

Re: Red / Black Cards. Puzzle
 
C(26,13) / ( C(26,13) + C(25,13) ) = 66.66%

SheetWise 07-25-2005 02:33 PM

Re: Red / Black Cards. Puzzle
 
Well, I was surprised. I know it's not a puzzle, I should have written puzzled ... then surprised. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

slickpoppa 07-25-2005 02:36 PM

Re: Red / Black Cards. Puzzle
 
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C(26,13) / ( C(26,13) + C(25,13) ) = 66.66%

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I believe that is correct

JoshuaMayes 07-25-2005 04:12 PM

Re: Red / Black Cards. Puzzle
 
[ QUOTE ]
A single red card is removed from a standard 52 card deck. Then 13 cards are drawn and found to be the same color. What is the probability that they are black?

[/ QUOTE ]

Zero, you just told me they were red.

slickpoppa 07-25-2005 04:19 PM

Re: Red / Black Cards. Puzzle
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A single red card is removed from a standard 52 card deck. Then 13 cards are drawn and found to be the same color. What is the probability that they are black?

[/ QUOTE ]

Zero, you just told me they were red.

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I think he means the same color as each other, not necessarily the same color as the first card that was removed.

SheetWise 07-25-2005 06:28 PM

Re: Red / Black Cards. Puzzle
 
Allright then, what was the probability they would be red.

jason_t 07-25-2005 06:44 PM

Re: Red / Black Cards. Puzzle
 
answer: 26c13/(26c13 + 25c13)

Now,

26c13 = 25c13 + 25c12 = 25c13 + 25c13 = 2 * 25c13

since

n choose k = (n-1) choose k + (n-1) choose (k-1)

and

n choose k = n choose (n-k).

Thus

26c13/(26c13 + 25c13) = (2 * 25c13)/(3 * 25c13) = 2/3.

Therefore the answer is 2/3.

This calculation also shows why the answer isn't surprising. There are twice as many ways to choose 13 cards from 26 as there are to choose 13 from 25.

SheetWise 07-25-2005 07:12 PM

Re: Red / Black Cards. Puzzle
 
I found it surprising -- in the sense that it's counter-intuitive. When I read over it, I had to stop and pause --then look at it again.

Homer 07-25-2005 07:24 PM

Re: Red / Black Cards. Puzzle
 
[ QUOTE ]
This surprised me.

A single red card is removed from a standard 52 card deck. Then 13 cards are drawn and found to be the same color. What is the probability that they are black?

[/ QUOTE ]

<font color="white">I should be able to do this one!

Number of ways to get 13 consecutive red = C(25,13) = 5200300

Number of ways to get 13 consecutive black = C(26,13) = 10400600

P(black) = 10400600 / (5200300 + 10400600) = 2/3</font>


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