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12-30-2005 09:12 PM

Turn 2 pair , sucky river : Line check
 
After about 100 hands - villian is VERY LAG

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($50)
UTG ($55.90)
Button ($68.15)
SB ($64.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($2.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, UTG calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25</font>, UTG calls $16.

River: ($55.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG calls $28.40 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $83.65

What hands does villian have?

Isura 12-30-2005 09:55 PM

Re: Turn 2 pair , sucky river : Line check
 
If he's lag he could have A3, JT or Ax. But I don't like the turn 3-bet. I'm looking to play a medium sized pot since most river cards are going to make us sick. I'd call the turn raise and go from there.

12-30-2005 09:58 PM

Re: Turn 2 pair , sucky river : Line check
 
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If he's lag he could have A3, JT or Ax. But I don't like the turn 3-bet. I'm looking to play a medium sized pot since most river cards are going to make us sick. I'd call the turn raise and go from there.

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exactly why I raised - I think I am ahead here more often than not and wanted to make him pay for his suckout.

Isura 12-30-2005 10:16 PM

Re: Turn 2 pair , sucky river : Line check
 
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If he's lag he could have A3, JT or Ax. But I don't like the turn 3-bet. I'm looking to play a medium sized pot since most river cards are going to make us sick. I'd call the turn raise and go from there.

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exactly why I raised - I think I am ahead here more often than not and wanted to make him pay for his suckout.

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I see wanting to charge him. But you still only have two pair out of position, and there are now 2 flush draws on the board along with the various broadway straights. My new approach to these situations is to keep the pot small when out of position, and valuebet him on a safe river. I like it much more if you can get him ALL-IN on the turn, but when you 3-bet here you are left in an awkward situation on the river.

12-30-2005 11:02 PM

Re: Turn 2 pair , sucky river : Line check
 
If he's the type of lag to fire many barrels I would thinking about check/calling flop, planning to check/call the whole way unimproved as long as there isn't a 4-flush or 4-straight

Given your flop lead, I like the turn 3-bet, and if villian is enough of a lag I call the river cause he could have A3o, K4o, 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], JJ etc...


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