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12-22-2005 02:32 PM

Really bad hand, berate me
 
Full Tilt Poker Game #347689580: Table Horse Pointe - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:25:47 ET - 2005/12/21
Seat 2: JesseJames124 ($27.90)
Seat 4: <font color="red"> Hero </font> ($34.50)
Seat 5: Meghan98 ($31.50)
Seat 6: sir_saloe ($6.40)
Seat 7: Diabolique ($24.75)
Seat 8: TangledPuppet ($13.20)
sir_saloe posts the small blind of $0.10
Diabolique posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to <font color="red"> Hero </font> [A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
TangledPuppet folds
JesseJames124 calls $0.25
<font color="red"> Hero </font> raises to $1.10
Meghan98 folds
sir_saloe folds
Diabolique folds
JesseJames124 calls $0.85
*** FLOP *** [6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
JesseJames124 checks
<font color="red"> Hero </font> bets $2
JesseJames124 raises to $4
<font color="red"> Hero </font> calls $2
*** TURN *** [6d 6s Qc] [Qd]
JesseJames124 checks
<font color="red"> Hero </font> checks
*** RIVER *** [6d 6s Qc Qd] [Kh]
JesseJames124 bets $10.55
<font color="red"> Hero </font> folds

Revised gameplan: CB the flop 100% of the time? 75%? Fold if raised; if called, shutdown unless ace hits on the turn (even then, proceed carefully)

mosuavea 12-22-2005 02:37 PM

Re: Really bad hand, berate me
 
Revised gameplan: Fold PF

No reason to get involved here with this hand, save yourself money

beavens 12-22-2005 02:38 PM

Re: Really bad hand, berate me
 
any reason you decided to make this move pf?

aces_dad 12-22-2005 02:39 PM

Re: Really bad hand, berate me
 
I fold this PF.

12-22-2005 02:41 PM

Re: Really bad hand, berate me
 
I guess it was a steal attempt at the time, but looking at it again, I have no idea.

1: With one limper, what quality offsuit ace do you need to raise in this spot? AQo and AKo?
2: Same question, but with no limpers.

Blinds are tight, but probably play alright post-flop.

12-22-2005 02:44 PM

Re: Really bad hand, berate me
 
Also, it was only six handed, so I figured it was ok quality.

aces_dad 12-22-2005 02:49 PM

Re: Really bad hand, berate me
 
But if you're called by any A you're likely going to have TP with kicker problems.

AKo and AQo is as low as I'd raise a limper with here.

mosuavea 12-22-2005 02:53 PM

Re: Really bad hand, berate me
 
[ QUOTE ]
But if you're called by any A you're likely going to have TP with kicker problems.

AKo and AQo is as low as I'd raise a limper with here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thats awfully tight. It does depend on the limper though. If he is losse and poor postflop, I would isolate him with AJo, and Axs down to x = 7 or 8.

If OP had a read of how bad the limper was in the origional post and he knew the blinds were tight, I dont entirely hate the play. This is under the ssumption that we have a good read and that he is bad. No read or if he is tight its an easy fold, as previously stated.

troymclur 12-22-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Really bad hand, berate me
 
You're gay. Clear-cut case of blatent homosexuality. i have not seen such epic scales of gayness since the battle for Lawrences butt cheeks in double-u double-u two.

Have thou been berated enough?

And now on to the content:

I like the pre-flop raise, even though its usually pretty bad. I make this kind of move usually with suited aces, or mid-low suited connectors, and only when my table image has been built up to facilitate the move. The flop was really good for you in a sense, but i think its pretty clear he has a queen, but usually with these kind of moves, pairing the board is great for you to bluff at. i would fold at the re-raise though.

Exitonly 12-22-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Really bad hand, berate me
 
[ QUOTE ]
Revised gameplan: Fold PF

No reason to get involved here with this hand, save yourself money

[/ QUOTE ]

sure there's reason to get involved.. it's 6 handed, and A8 is probably good here.

but i probably dump it when i get minraised..


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