Daily Hand Post : KJo in LMP
 

Hey guys,

I'm gonna start posting hands again, hopefully every day I get on here. It's been way too long.

Good 30 game. Limper is unknown, but his numbers appear loose'ish. Button is pretty bad preflop and on the flop.

Three folds and MP limps. Folded to me and I raise with K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in LMP. CO folds, Button calls, blinds fold, limper calls. 3 to the flop for 7.5 SB's.

Flop comes: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked to me and I bet, Button calls, MP folds. HU for 4.75 BB's.

Turn comes: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I bet, Button calls.

River comes: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check, Button bets, I raise.

I play AK or AJ the same way, FWIW.

GoT

Re: Daily Hand Post : KJo in LMP
 

My bad...I'm the original donkey around here and if I look back I think I used that term first, calling myself one, of course.

Re: Daily Hand Post : KJo in LMP
 

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GoT, the title of you post, is JTs and you are holding KJo?

Edit?

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I'm pretty sure I have no idea what you're talking about.

GoT

Re: Daily Hand Post : KJo in LMP
 

I wish I had something to say. I really like this hand. Especially after reading the post complaining about the quality of hands in the forum. The way you played it would never occur to me. I guess I have a lot of learning to do.

Re: Daily Hand Post : KJo in LMP
 

I dig pf through the turn.

The river, however, is where it gets interesting.
Villain could be betting 3 things:

1. PP<9 or K -- a bluff, essentially. He's not paying off a raise here, so EVcalling = EVraising.
2. A Q or 9 -- he's going to call every time and raise sometimes (where you won't pay off ever), raise is -1BB against calling.
3. Ace-high -- does he fold here enough for your raise to work?

The way the hand plays out, I think your hand is good here a decent % of the time, actually, as villain seems to have JT, Ax[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], or a low PP to call along like that. There's an outside chance he plays QJs like this, though, too.

I think villain may lay down A-high here just enough to make this profitable.

Very interesting.

-d

Re: Daily Hand Post : KJo in LMP
 

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I play AK or AJ the same way, FWIW.

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what about AQ? it seems by your omission you bet, but then what other legit hands do you checkraise?

(I say legit not in terms of winning when called or getting him to fold, but in terms of "beating an ace kicker")

Re: Daily Hand Post : KJo in LMP
 

Took me about 30 seconds to get it. He's got an ace at best, and no way he can call the check raise. Bad player would have raised somewhere if he had a Q or 9, you've only represented stregnth. Nice hand that I probably would have lost. Thanks

Re: Daily Hand Post : KJo in LMP
 

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I play AK or AJ the same way, FWIW.

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what about AQ? it seems by your omission you bet, but then what other legit hands do you checkraise?

(I say legit not in terms of winning when called or getting him to fold, but in terms of "beating an ace kicker")

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What about 77/88? Other than the chance your ahead, the bluff raise will work just as often...

-d

Re: Daily Hand Post : KJo in LMP
 

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I think villain may lay down A-high here just enough to make this profitable.

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I really doubt he's value betting ace-high here--don't you think he'd be happy to check it behind? Not much of a read to go on but "pretty bad preflop and on the flop," doesn't seem to me he'd be savvy enough to put GoT on an u/i ace and try to get all of what looks like a split pot.

I can't say that I'd think to make this play, but it seems really solid. I just don't see this guy being able to call very often and it pretty clearly looks like he has neither a queen or a nine.

Re: Daily Hand Post : KJo in LMP
 

Will this play work against low limit players? This seems like a play that has a much higher EV at higher limits.

I love this play with AJ or AK, since you're most likely chopping at worst, and could get him to fold an A here quite often.