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Mr. Curious 12-18-2005 09:10 PM

Unknown SB leads small on the flop
 
$500 NL
Blinds are $5/10
9 Handed

SB is an unknown. I've only been at the table for two hands.

Stacks:
SB $350
Hero $500

Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in MP2

Preflop: UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $40, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Pot: $90

SB bets $25, Hero ... ?

Mr. Curious 12-18-2005 09:41 PM

Re: Unknown SB leads small on the flop
 
<I posted this in SSNL because I figured that it was a basic ABC type situation, the SSNL moderators have moved it here...>

deadmoney98 12-18-2005 10:49 PM

Re: Unknown SB leads small on the flop
 
I see this a lot from a hand like 10-10 trying to cheaply determine if you hit the flop. Of course it could always be a draw looking for a cheap turn card. I raise to 75-90 and probably fold to a 3-bet, which is his way of allowing you to get away cheaply, IMO.

If Villain just calls the bet make another pot sized bet on a bricked turn

durrrr 12-19-2005 12:27 AM

Re: Unknown SB leads small on the flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
<I posted this in SSNL because I figured that it was a basic ABC type situation, the SSNL moderators have moved it here...>

[/ QUOTE ]

wow that was intelligent of them...
.............................

raise btw. DONT FOLD!!!

flawless_victory 12-19-2005 12:47 AM

Re: Unknown SB leads small on the flop
 
raise to 125..
if he pushes, call.
if he calls, push turn.
if he fold, take the pot.

snappo 12-19-2005 01:24 AM

Re: Unknown SB leads small on the flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
I see this a lot from a hand like 10-10 trying to cheaply determine if you hit the flop. Of course it could always be a draw looking for a cheap turn card. I raise to 75-90 and probably fold to a 3-bet, which is his way of allowing you to get away cheaply, IMO.

[/ QUOTE ]

that is too weak IMO, SB only has 35 BBs just raise and get allin however you can.

soah 12-19-2005 01:47 AM

Re: Unknown SB leads small on the flop
 
His stack is only about three times the size of the pot and you have a strong hand. The sooner the money goes in the pot, the more likely that you're ahead. I raise to $125 and put the rest in on the turn. If he pushes over the top of your flop raise then things aren't looking so great, but without any read on him I'd be inclined to call and pray. He might be really bad, or he might not be giving you credit for having much on just your second hand at the table.

Mr. Curious 12-19-2005 02:22 AM

Re: Unknown SB leads small on the flop
 
$500 NL
Blinds are $5/10
9 Handed

SB is an unknown. I've only been at the table for two hands.

Stacks:
SB $350
Hero $500

Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in MP2

Preflop: UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $40, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Pot: $90

SB bets $25, Hero ... ?

<font color="blue">I took his weak flop bet to be a blocking type bet, where he had either a flush or straight draw and wanted to see the turn cheaply. So...</font>

Hero makes is $100, SB calls

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Pot: $290

SB checks, Hero ... ?

SmileyEH 12-19-2005 02:53 AM

Re: Unknown SB leads small on the flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
SB checks, Hero ... ?

[/ QUOTE ]

... goes all in.

-SmileyEH

wdeadwyler 12-19-2005 05:10 AM

Re: Unknown SB leads small on the flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
raise to 125.
if he pushes, call.
if he calls, push turn.
if he fold, take the pot.

[/ QUOTE ]

I raise to 110 or 115 (PSR) but 125 is fine too.

You have the best hand and he is likely drawing so lets put lots of money in the pot.


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