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Los Feliz Slim 12-17-2005 12:36 PM

Where is the fold?
 
Haven't played Party in a little while and have forgotten how to handle draws like this at insane tables. Help?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG+1 posts a blind of $4.
UTG calls, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (21.66 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (14.83 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.83 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 21.83 BB

bobhalford 12-17-2005 01:03 PM

Re: Where is the fold?
 
I think the way you played it is fine.

GHL 12-17-2005 03:56 PM

Re: Where is the fold?
 
Some argue that drawing to a str out of position with a paird board or a flush drawing board isn't that good of an idea but you do have one of the bigger diamonds out there....... the turn complicates your decision adding a possible out... but that out makes a lot of other str draws as well.... I might make the crying call on the turn though...

12-17-2005 04:01 PM

Re: Where is the fold?
 
The turn in no way is a crying call. Not drawing to your straight here would be terrible.

goofball 12-17-2005 04:13 PM

Re: Where is the fold?
 
There is no way you can play it any different then you did. HUge pot, gotta call even if you have only 6 outs you're getting more than enough. Throw in two diamond straight outs and 2 Q outs (J is likely worthless) and folding would be a very big mistake.

Gotta fold the river though, second pair isn't goign to cut it for a third overcall.


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