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Zele 12-24-2005 04:35 PM

10/20 Blinds hand - I choke in the face of a turn donkbet
 
Raising seemed like spewing (and I really didn't want to get 3bet); folding seemed weak. As it went, I just felt dirty.

Edit: No read at all. This is the second hand we've played together.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) 3-bets</font>, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Danenania 12-24-2005 05:53 PM

Re: 10/20 Blinds hand - I choke in the face of a turn donkbet
 
Looks fine.

ArturiusX 12-24-2005 07:46 PM

Re: 10/20 Blinds hand - I choke in the face of a turn donkbet
 
I just call preflop, the rest looks fine. I find a turn fold without the gutshot though.

Pog0 12-25-2005 01:47 AM

Re: 10/20 Blinds hand - I choke in the face of a turn donkbet
 
I feel inclined to fold here on the turn, and if we're good here, villian will often have 9,13,21 outs.

Running a 43% range for villain, our equity is at 32%, but our equity must be lower for his range of hands that donk the turn. We should assume we need to call 2 BB to win 6 at this point. Yes, we only need 25% equity to make this breakeven, but do we really have that against his range at this point? He might even give up on the river with his bluffs/semibluffs so you may end up winning less when ahead and more when behind. But he might also give you a free showdown with his 9x,8x, and 7x hands to compensate for this.

I don't know, I would habitually fold this spot, but that may be wrong, and I wouldn't know what to think of most river cards.


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