WHAT THE?
 

Hi all. First off let me apologize. I could not get the hand converter to work for some reason?!?! I had been sitting at a PL table for about 15 min and something didn't seem right. There was all kinds of strange raising and folding that just didn't seem to make sense. Then this hand went down. The "winner" of the had seemed to be winning alot of strange bet hands. Was this collusion, or just a very stupid player? Also, when I said something in the chat box the "loser" logged of and a player from THE SAME CITY sat down? Should I say something to Party? The hand is below.

***** Hand History for Game 3166555144 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (PL) - Thu Dec 08 17:18:49 EST 2005
Table Table 65068 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Tagman7 ( $24.75)
Seat 3: Birdy33 ( $23.65)
Seat 4: sodakrancher ( $23.63)
Seat 5: jmcgovern111 ( $23.35)
Seat 6: PROSTAR333 ( $26.60)
Seat 7: radbrad28 ( $44.70)
Seat 8: luckyhaskins ( $21.65)
Seat 9: wezvidz ( $24.15)
Seat 10: b222227k9v ( $24.50)
PROSTAR333 posts small blind (0.10)
radbrad28 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to luckyhaskins [ Ac, 8d ]=20
luckyhaskins folds.
wezvidz folds.
b222227k9v calls (0.25)
Tagman7 folds.
Birdy33 calls (0.25)
jmcgovern111 calls (0.25)
PROSTAR333 calls (0.15)
radbrad28 raises (0.25) to 0.50
b222227k9v calls (0.25)
Birdy33 calls (0.25)
jmcgovern111 calls (0.25)
PROSTAR333 calls (0.25)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7d, 7c, Td ]=20
PROSTAR333 checks.
radbrad28 bets (2)
b222227k9v calls (2)
Birdy33 folds.
jmcgovern111 folds.
PROSTAR333 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7s ]=20
radbrad28 bets (3)
b222227k9v raises (15.20) to 15.20
radbrad28 calls (12.20)
** Dealing River ** : [ 7h ]=20
radbrad28 bets (7)
b222227k9v folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $42.10 | Rake: $1.80
Board: [ 7d 7c Td 7s 7h ]
Tagman7 balance $24.75, didn't bet (folded)
Birdy33 balance $23.15, lost $0.50 (folded)=20
sodakrancher balance $23.63, sits out
jmcgovern111 balance $22.85, lost $0.50 (folded)=20
PROSTAR333 balance $26.10, lost $0.50 (folded)=20
radbrad28 balance $62.10, bet $24.70, collected $42.10, net +$17.40
luckyhaskins balance $21.65, didn't bet (folded)
wezvidz balance $24.15, didn't bet (folded)
b222227k9v balance $6.80, lost $17.70 (folded)=20

Re: WHAT THE?
 

If you think you should report it, do it. You dont need the approval of 2+2 to do whatever you think is right.

Re: WHAT THE?
 

I don't see anything strange about this hand. He had a full house, maybe even tens full, and was counterfeited on the river. With no player in the middle, there's absolutely no reason to suspect there's collusion here. I don't think there would be anyway, really.

Re: WHAT THE?
 

My question wasn't really should I report it. It was more as to if it was just a stupid player or something more shady (from the playing).

Re: WHAT THE?
 

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My question wasn't really should I report it. It was more as to if it was just a stupid player or something more shady (from the playing).

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doesn't look remotely shady to me. people do weird things on weird boards, and that's a pretty weird board. but especially with quads on the board its easy to have absolutely nothing.

Re: WHAT THE?
 

1. it takes 3 people to be collusion. in this case, there was not a raising/trap move that drove someone out.

2. when the big raise happened it was HU.

3. i think there is no worry about collusion in a .10-.25 blind PLH game.

don't report it. wasting your time and party's time.

Re: WHAT THE?
 

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My question wasn't really should I report it. It was more as to if it was just a stupid player or something more shady (from the playing).

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My guess is they both had a pocket pair and therefore a full house on the turn. The guy that folded probably had a small pocket pair (2's, 3's or 4's)and figured the other player had him with a higher card.

Re: WHAT THE?
 

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My question wasn't really should I report it.

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Oh sorry, how could I have been confused? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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lso, when I said something in the chat box the "loser" logged of and a player from THE SAME CITY sat down? Should I say something to Party?

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Oh that's how.