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shivvyman 05-14-2005 10:47 PM

Slow Play?
 
What do I do on the flop? Slow play or raise like I did? I'm new to limit hold 'em and have taken the approach of 'bet/raise when in doubt.'

Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (11.40 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (8.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 folds.

River: (10.70 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 12.70 BB

thesharpie 05-14-2005 10:53 PM

Re: Slow Play?
 
Raise now if in doubt. Wait for the turn if you think it's likely Mp1 will lead again and MP3 will call.

Arnfinn Madsen 05-14-2005 10:57 PM

Re: Slow Play?
 
I would have called, and raise at every opportunity after.

Redd 05-14-2005 10:59 PM

Re: Slow Play?
 
IMO second set with two connected and very popular cards on the flop is not the time to slow play. Nice hand.

SoftcoreRevolt 05-14-2005 11:06 PM

Re: Slow Play?
 
Perfectly played, it was an action flop and most of the time a villain will be willing to go to war, or at least get more money in now so those drawing dead stay in with improved odds.

Rev. Good Will 05-14-2005 11:24 PM

Re: Slow Play?
 
well played

don't usually slow down the flop

I only like to be slowplaying or flop C/R'ing if I wasn't the last one to do a raise, and if the flop is scary enough (all of this assuming I have an invulnurable hand as well)

ArturiusX 05-14-2005 11:43 PM

Re: Slow Play?
 
This is a good spot to fast play.

If anyone has an ace and is a slight maniac, they'll goto war with you, thinking you have a worse K.

If they don't, you won't get anymore money out of slowplaying anyway.

afk 05-14-2005 11:49 PM

Re: Slow Play?
 
I think you played this hand perfectly.

shivvyman 05-14-2005 11:53 PM

Re: Slow Play?
 
Here is another hand where I decided to slow play. Good or bad decision. My thought process was I was hoping somebody might hit their flush or chase high cars by me not raising after the flop came with my made full boat.

Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (10 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Results:
<font color="white"> SB has 1010 for a bigger boat over mine.</font>

afk 05-14-2005 11:56 PM

Re: Slow Play?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here is another hand where I decided to slow play. Good or bad decision. My thought process was I was hoping somebody might hit their flush or chase high cars by me not raising after the flop came with my made full boat.

Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (10 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Results:
<font color="white"> SB has 1010 for a bigger boat over mine.</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

This one I don't mind so much. The pot is small and you're giving your opponents a chance to improve to a second best hand (ie flush).


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