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chio 10-16-2005 09:18 PM

JJ 3way
 
I thought I played this hand weird, let me know what you think.

party 10-20 6 handed

UTG calls, I raise JJ on the button, SB 3bets it, we call

SB's 3betting range is pretty wide here, i've seen him 3bet with AJo in the CO and raise A2o UTG. UTG is typical loosey.

flop is Ad5c4d (I have no diamond). checked to me, what's your plan of action?

brazilio 10-16-2005 09:19 PM

Re: JJ 3way
 
Is there a reason why you don't cap here when preflop you're significantly ahead of SB's 3-betting range, and UTG is essentially dead money?

Stack 10-16-2005 09:39 PM

Re: JJ 3way
 
I agree with brazilio that you should cap this preflop (your read is that his 3betting standard is wide)

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what's your plan of action?


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Well, I have position [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img], so I'll wait and see what these guys do before I make a plan. (otherwise I'd have to do a lot of "if sb...and caller..., then..."

chio 10-16-2005 09:40 PM

Re: JJ 3way
 
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Is there a reason why you don't cap here when preflop you're significantly ahead of SB's 3-betting range, and UTG is essentially dead money?

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i mix up my play when faced with capping JJ or TT mulitway. this was probably a cap, for the reasons you cited. given that i didn't, how do you play the hand? flop was checked to me..

chio 10-16-2005 09:40 PM

Re: JJ 3way
 
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I agree with brazilio that you should cap this preflop (your read is that his 3betting standard is wide)

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what's your plan of action?


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Well, I have position [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img], so I'll wait and see what these guys do before I make a plan. (otherwise I'd have to do a lot of "if sb...and caller..., then..."

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sorry flop was checked to me (i fixed the post)

brazilio 10-16-2005 09:54 PM

Re: JJ 3way
 
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Is there a reason why you don't cap here when preflop you're significantly ahead of SB's 3-betting range, and UTG is essentially dead money?

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i mix up my play when faced with capping JJ or TT mulitway. this was probably a cap, for the reasons you cited. given that i didn't, how do you play the hand? flop was checked to me..

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Sorry, didn't mean to respond with only preflop play, I hate it when other people do that. Bet flop, if both call I bet the turn, checking through the river, never overcalling if somebody bets the river. Pretty standard stuff, a lot of turn and river bet/folding depending on what falls.

Stack 10-16-2005 10:28 PM

Re: JJ 3way
 
I bet flop and turn if checked to me, river depends on what came on the turn and if it's HU or 3-way.

The problem is when I get check-raised on the flop here. I plan to call down if the other guy folds, on most turns and rivers. If the other guy cold-calls, it's really difficult. There's a straight draw and a flush draw on the board, so I may still be good. I may call the flop and see what the turn brings.

chio 10-17-2005 07:38 AM

Re: JJ 3way
 
to continue:

flop is Ad5c4d (I have no diamond). checked to me, i bet, both call

turn is (Ad5c4d)7h, checked to me, i check

river is (Ad5c4d7h)4s, SB bets, UTG calls, i fold

i think every street could be debated?

spydog 10-17-2005 07:46 AM

Re: JJ 3way
 
Easy cap preflop. Don't even think twice about it. In a HU situation it may be OK to call, but 3-way it's an easy cap.

From there, I just bet-fold every street.

brazilio 10-17-2005 09:18 AM

Re: JJ 3way
 
well, the turn is eh, I usually bet/fold. The river, overcalling blows once you check through the turn.


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