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donger 11-21-2005 09:55 PM

45s - 5/10 - I hate money
 
CO is TAG-ish. Flop bettor is an idiot. I had planned to play this passively, but when it got down to HU on the turn, I saw an opportunity. Is this spewy or good?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, BB folds, MP folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

Spicymoose 11-21-2005 09:57 PM

Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money
 
I like it.

What do you do when he calls and you don't improve on the river? What do you do if you hit your weak pairs on the river?

donger 11-21-2005 10:00 PM

Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money
 
I keep gunning if he calls, I expect him to call the turn. I was just trying to set up some river fold equity vs his weaker hands (most of which are flush draws).

I check-call my weak pairs.

Zele 11-21-2005 10:02 PM

Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money
 
If the idea is to take out a better flush draw, he's got to bet the river unimproved, and I assume cc with a little help.

I'm not crazy about this move against a TAG/unknown. I just don't think he has a laydown hand often enough to justify the extra 2BB.

Spicymoose 11-21-2005 10:03 PM

Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money
 
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I keep gunning if he calls, I expect him to call the turn. I was just trying to set up some river fold equity vs his weaker hands (most of which are flush draws).

I check-call my weak pairs.

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Sounds like you have a good plan.

donger 11-21-2005 10:23 PM

Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money
 
[ QUOTE ]
If the idea is to take out a better flush draw, he's got to bet the river unimproved, and I assume cc with a little help.

I'm not crazy about this move against a TAG/unknown. I just don't think he has a laydown hand often enough to justify the extra 2BB.

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It's not actually 2 extra WHOLE BBs. I have 15 outs against a made hand, so it's a fraction (maybe 2/3s?) of a BB each street.

EDIT: I'm also CRing a 6, bet/3betting an A, and bet/calling if I hit a flush.

ArturiusX 11-21-2005 10:25 PM

Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money
 
Its okkkkk, not a huge fan but I don't mind it. Most Q's are calling down here, two pairs are 3-beting, same with sets, I guess this is one of those No-limit style plays where you bluff with outs.

Board needs to be a bit scarier for mine, but against a TAG its ok.

Zele 11-21-2005 10:35 PM

Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money
 
Sorry, I missed the OESD component. I agree - with your very decent equity this move has good risk/reward.

Spicymoose 11-21-2005 10:37 PM

Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money
 
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Its okkkkk, not a huge fan but I don't mind it. Most Q's are calling down here, two pairs are 3-beting, same with sets, I guess this is one of those No-limit style plays where you bluff with outs.

Board needs to be a bit scarier for mine, but against a TAG its ok.

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Don't forget the 9s we fold out!

ArturiusX 11-21-2005 11:44 PM

Re: 45s - 5/10 - I hate money
 
True. If the guy can fold [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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