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buhler26 03-01-2005 09:42 AM

suited ace in middle position
 
What do you think about the flop raise? Do you continue betting afterwards?

UTG+1 called and then raised all-in for another half-bet after I raised, which is why the action looks funny on the flop.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.30 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (8.30 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.30 BB

mr pink 03-01-2005 09:44 AM

Re: suited ace in middle position
 
what were you trying to accomplish by raising?

spydog 03-01-2005 09:45 AM

Re: suited ace in middle position
 
I just call the flop and fold the turn unimproved. There are too many callers between you and the flop bettor. If he's on my immediately right then I would raise this flop.

chief444 03-01-2005 09:53 AM

Re: suited ace in middle position
 
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what were you trying to accomplish by raising?

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Position, free card? Looks OK to me.

spydog 03-01-2005 09:57 AM

Re: suited ace in middle position
 
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what were you trying to accomplish by raising?

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Position, free card? Looks OK to me.

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Why? Because it's 10SBs when it gets to Hero and there is little chance of being 3-bet?

I think I still like calling this.

QTip 03-01-2005 09:57 AM

Re: suited ace in middle position
 
Not my favorite thing here either...although, he did buy the button and even a free showdown. To me, it looks like he just scared a Jack with a bad kicker.

chief444 03-01-2005 10:03 AM

Re: suited ace in middle position
 
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Why? Because it's 10SBs when it gets to Hero and there is little chance of being 3-bet?

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Yeah. Plus he has backdoor straight and flush draws to go with bottom pair overcard kicker. And note that this is 1/2 where the free card play probably works more often than we're used to seeing. Should be in the micro forum BTW.

buhler26 03-01-2005 10:06 AM

Re: suited ace in middle position
 
You're kinda right. I scared off a KJ, a KT, and the all-in guy had KQ. So I ended up in pretty bad shape.

QTip 03-01-2005 10:07 AM

Re: suited ace in middle position
 
That's the line I like.

QTip 03-01-2005 10:09 AM

Re: suited ace in middle position
 
I think sometimes we find ourselves in a raise/fold mentality. "If I'm going to play, I'm going to raise". However, there are many times when we should just call...probably this one. I catch myself in this thinking every now and then, and have to calm a little.

What's your AF?


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