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I know, I know, some of us here are not big fans of stats posts. But I’ve played 32k hands and am looking for some guidance by my fellow 2plus2ers.

A little history on my poker career: I started playing poker in high school with a few friends (posters Dr.Gutshot and Stealthcow are two of them), learning the concepts of poker, reading books, and talking about the game with my friends. Senior year (2 years ago) we decided to give online poker a try after reading about it on 2plus2 and hearing about how profitable it was from a friend. Not even 18 yet, I set up an account on Party under my dad's name, putting in $100. Noah (Dr.Gutshot) and Ian (Stealthcow)decided to play $.5/1 while I stuck with my NL routes and gave 25NL a try. After 3 months of playing, my bank roll ballooned to 3k, and I was moving up the games very fast. Meanwhile, Ian and Noah were climbing up the limit ladder, playing a mix of $1/2 sh and $3/6 full.
The next month I got in a rut and decided to mix it up, giving $3/6 a try. Switching to limit also helped me since I could talk strategy over with Ian and Noah. I did well for a month, got in another rut, and moved back to NL, despite my friends telling me I should stick with one or the other. 6 max NL treated me very well for a year and I built my bankroll up to around 20k. Then the variance gods hit me with the worst downswing I ever had. It sliced my bankroll in half and yet again, I decided to give limit another try. I made my final switch (hopefully permanent) back to 3/6. My bankroll got back up to where it was before my NL disaster and I made the switch to 5/10sh.
I've been playing 5/10sh for the past couple of months with very limited success, as you will see from my poker tracker stats. I'm always looking to improve my game, constantly looking over the forums and talking with Ian and Noah to help me mentally and my game in general. Recently we've been exchanging videos, which have been helping me and will probably continue to help me. However, I would like to get a more in depth, non biased critique of my stats. Anyways, here are my PT stats and thanks for taking the time to look them over.
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Bear with me on how small the pic is. I had boatloads of trouble trying to figure out how to get my pic hosted and cant figure out how to make it bigger. If anyone can tell me how i'll repost it.

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WTSD too low for your VPIP and folded to river bet is too high. Try posting the link to the picture rather than the actual image. As is it is really hard to read.

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At imageshack it will have your image and also a URL for your image. Input the URL for the image when you make your post and it should show up much nicer. Im sorry if this is difficult to understand.

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Yea, yea, I suck with computers. Well I tried my best, so here it is. Comments appreciated.

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So basically call more on the river?

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no, here it is

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http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/6923/11115gn.png

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So how is this NOT another stats post? A stats post seems to be exacltly what this is.

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I was being sarcastic...

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Then why post it? Did you read the limrick contest? post specific hands, not stats

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Poo bah spreading h8. Give the kid a break [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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yea I did, but 2plus2ers i respect have made stats posts pretty recently (__1__)and I thought i could do the same. Stop trying to be a moderator and get a life.

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You seem to be losing a bit more in the BB than most around here. You might work on your blind defense some. Try to get it up into the mid teens (but still negative, of course). SB looks pretty good. An extra 0.05 BB/100 in the BB once every 6 hands could affect your winrate substantially. I'm still a blind defense n00b, and my BB winrate is -0.14 BB/100.

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Its not so much the stats post that I dislike, its more or less the lack of useful advice that comes from them. When someone posts a hand, there are lessons to be learned somewhere by analyzing the play. By looking at stats you can't get any useful advice b/c everyone plays different. Responses like "call the river more" or "your wdsd is too high" don't tell enough of the story b/c we don't know how you play. Its easy to say your stats don't fit and to change them but that won't make you a better poker player. Stats only tell part of the story of you as a poker player. By posting your stats, I doubt you'll learn anyhting really useful that will dramatically change your game. I'm not trying to be a a$$hole about it, just trying to help.

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You're stats are fine

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Its not so much the stats post that I dislike, its more or less the lack of useful advice that comes from them. When someone posts a hand, there are lessons to be learned somewhere by analyzing the play. By looking at stats you can't get any useful advice b/c everyone plays different. Responses like "call the river more" or "your wdsd is too high" don't tell enough of the story b/c we don't know how you play. Its easy to say your stats don't fit and to change them but that won't make you a better poker player. Stats only tell part of the story of you as a poker player. By posting your stats, I doubt you'll learn anyhting really useful that will dramatically change your game. I'm not trying to be a a$$hole about it, just trying to help.


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The reason I always thought everyone hated stats posts is because of how easy it is to just look up the "standard" numbers by yourself. Just search for old stats posts, and see where you are different form them and what people said about said person's stats. Also, I think there was a post a while back that went through a good range for each catagory, etc.

Not trying to rip on OP, I dont really have a problem with stats posts.

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A close friend of mine who plays poker told me the exact same thing today and I somewhat agree with both of you. I agree that reviewing/posting hands is 100x better since you can evaluate your play in specific post flop situations. However, stats posts can be helpful when trying to identify a particular leak that stands out. I have been posting on 2plus2 a good amount and talking with my poker buddies about hands, which has defenately helped my game. But after 38k hands i'm getting a bit frustrated about the lack of results. I know variance could bet the reason for my break even play, but there may be something else glaring that sticks out. Stats don't tell the whole story but they can help provide some details on how someone is playing. I'll shut up now, but whoever wants to help me out with my stats, please do so. Those of you who think stat posts are completely useless and are angered when they see them, just read another post.

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Poker is a frustrating game, dont get discourage after 38k hands. I've been through 15k breakeven streaks and it is the most FRUSTRATING thing you can imagine. Keep posting and analyzing your hands, you'll snap out of it eventually.

I always found it funny that people, myself included, look to the stats when we are running badly but not when running well. Whenever I'm running well, I hardly care or notice my stats and focus on my play. When I start to run bad though, I look at stats to find my leaks. This is something I'm trying to work on.

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Seems to me you could possibly be a bit weak.

Go showdown more.

Your fortunate enough to be getting advice from DR Gutshot, Id concentrate on that if I were you.

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No time to edit, but Id rephrase, go showdown more against the over aggressive players.

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Looks like you are running bad as you should win more at showdown with your WSD and lowish blind defense numbers.
You can steal more and defend both blinds more aswell.
My AFs are higher than yours I think, but I can´t help you with that. Posting hands or replying to posts may help you find more spots to bet/raise rather than check/call.

You are losing a ton in the BB, probably alot of it from running bad though, but thats a place to start looking.

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He's helped me a lot in the past and continues to do so, reviewing my videos, hands, etc.

Calling down with strong aces might be something I should do more of, but i'm not sure. I usually don't do so unless I have a strong read, maybe a leak? I'll save some questionable hands like those from my next session and post them.

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Stealing and defending my blinds are defenately two of my biggest leaks. I tend to get weak when faced with agression in those situations without a pair or a read on my opponent. Hopefully continuing to go over my videos with Dr.G/Stealthcow will help me more. Thanks for the analysis.