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Meech 01-09-2005 11:47 AM

AQo in BB
 
Table was mostly passive, with a couple of solid players and a maniac.

I have a tendancy to autobet when I have overs and raised PF from EP. I think this is a potential leak and I am paying attention to it. In this case I didn't want to give any flush draws a free card.

In hindsight I think the turn raise was probably spewage (along with the river bet). Villan was passive.


Paradise Poker 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (9 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls.

River: (15 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

Wario 01-09-2005 11:51 AM

Re: AQo in BB
 
I would check this flop.

You are unlikely to be holding the best hand and you wont clean up any outs because nobody will fold anything better.

I like everything else, some will say the turn 3-bet is too aggressive but I like it.

Nice hand.

Vern 01-09-2005 11:57 AM

Re: AQo in BB
 
I think the biggest mistake you made was betting the flop. You have overcards with no other draw on a two flush board vs 5 opponents and you are in the worst possible position. Maybe if the Button bets, you can check/raise, but at this level I doubt it will fold anyone with A2, A6 or A9 and I think check/calling the flop would be better. Against a passive opponent that raises me when the ace hits, I think I call then check/call the river. With a passive read I think I am behind A2, A6 or A9 but will call down anway because of the pot size. Also note, when you 3-bet it was already heads up so you need to be ahead here the vast majority of the time to make this a value raise. With other calling stations in, the three-bet becomes a good play.

Vern

wuwei 01-09-2005 01:38 PM

Re: AQo in BB
 
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I think the biggest mistake you made was betting the flop. You have overcards with no other draw on a two flush board vs 5 opponents and you are in the worst possible position. Maybe if the Button bets, you can check/raise, but at this level I doubt it will fold anyone with A2, A6 or A9 and I think check/calling the flop would be better. Against a passive opponent that raises me when the ace hits, I think I call then check/call the river. With a passive read I think I am behind A2, A6 or A9 but will call down anway because of the pot size. Also note, when you 3-bet it was already heads up so you need to be ahead here the vast majority of the time to make this a value raise. With other calling stations in, the three-bet becomes a good play.

Vern

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Good post.

In general, I'd recommend thinking hard about your position and how difficult it is to play hands like this from the blinds when you miss the flop. Betting that flop into that many people is very bad.

Meech 01-09-2005 01:49 PM

Re: AQo in BB
 
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In general, I'd recommend thinking hard about your position and how difficult it is to play hands like this from the blinds when you miss the flop.

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Agreed.

Shillx 01-09-2005 02:30 PM

Re: AQo in BB
 
Yeah the flop bet pretty much sucks but the rest certianly isn't "spewage". Nice hand.

Brad


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