A7s on the button. Bet river w/ ace high
This hand was a few days ago, so I don't really remember the reads. I hate doing this, but I looked back at PT and noticed that at the time I would've at least had PT stats on this guy. So lets say with some uncertainty that he's probably like a 25-35/15-20ish type player. Basically, he's not passive and probably not a total retard either.
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (7 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls. Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. River: (7.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets |
Re: A7s on the button. Bet river w/ ace high
i guess you may push out AK high here, but we'd need to see WSD% stats to be sure of that.
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Re: A7s on the button. Bet river w/ ace high
I don't think you are getting a better hand to fold, and I don't think you are getting a worse hand to call. I check behind and hope he was drawing.
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Re: A7s on the button. Bet river w/ ace high
I don't know if I like the turn bet.
You only fold out K-hi here but you're already ahead of it. I think that these spew-plays look quite marginal but are quite frequent and can significantly cut your winrate. Preflop 3-bettors in these games rarely fold turn on this board. |
Re: A7s on the button. Bet river w/ ace high
He can fold AK or something here if you've been especially tight lately and you think his read on you is that you wouldn't bet at it without a pair.
Apart from this meta-game-ish type of read based on what you think he thinks of you I would check as a default. I agree with Roy that the turn bet is marginal and I'm a prefect example of his idea of the spew-plays like those significantly cutting one's win-rate (or, in my case, making one a losing player). A bet is only good here if you have a specific read that he is pretty passive and likely to fold post-flop. Justy based on his pre-flop numbers it seems unlikely that he would be that passive in his post-flop play. |
Re: A7s on the button. Bet river w/ ace high
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I don't know if I like the turn bet. You only fold out K-hi here but you're already ahead of it. I think that these spew-plays look quite marginal but are quite frequent and can significantly cut your winrate. Preflop 3-bettors in these games rarely fold turn on this board. [/ QUOTE ] I was away for awhile, so I'm just reading these now. I'm assuming you think the flop raise is fine, and that you're just advocating taking the free card once I get it right? I guess I was hoping to pound out a bigger ace on the turn, but I think you are right and betting is probably pretty bad. FWIW, the guy folded to my river bet. So the result was good, but I questioned the play so I wanted to have people take a look at it. |
Re: A7s on the button. Bet river w/ ace high
Grunch.
My instinct says he has a medium PP(88-TT) and fears a bigger one from you and is calling you down. Anyhow on the flop raise i think i peel without a solid read(i.e. We don't know if he bluffs flops, We don't know if he folds flop raises or trys to pot steal(Donk bet)). Because of the lack of read i want to peel. HOWEVER it does look like a potsteal attempt and raising may give us foldequity and may get us a free turn(Or chance to bet to fold him). Im happy with your line(But dont bet river) or a C/C flop and turn... River ... probably folding it to another bet unless i think Ace high will win it. I dont think it will. |
Re: A7s on the button. Bet river w/ ace high
Why are we raising the flop? I think I just peel here and fold the turn UI.
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Re: A7s on the button. Bet river w/ ace high
I only like your line if you think a better ace will fold once you fire a third barrel. If not I'd just peel the flop and fold the turn. SB's 3-betting range has us beat.
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