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jt1 12-29-2005 04:31 AM

anyone slowplay this?
 
PP 3/6 full ring
Button is unknown and not crazy

Button open raises
sb folds
Hero calls Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero checks
Button bets
Hero raises

thirddan 12-29-2005 04:39 AM

Re: anyone slowplay this?
 
can you explain why you raised?

ackid 12-29-2005 04:41 AM

Re: anyone slowplay this?
 
I guess your in the bb. I would fold this preflop.

This hand has almost no sd value and your oop.

Q/8 is not a great hand to be defending your blind with.

jt1 12-29-2005 04:43 AM

Re: anyone slowplay this?
 
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can you explain why you raised?

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I thought I had the best hand.

thirddan 12-29-2005 04:46 AM

Re: anyone slowplay this?
 
if you believe you have the best hand do you make more money to raise now or just call and hope he continues betting a worse hand?

i think a call here is better, this is kinda a wa/wb situation ...taking a passive line against an unknown here will prevent you from mucking a winner to continued aggression, but will also get you some value againsta weaker hand....

jt1 12-29-2005 04:46 AM

Re: anyone slowplay this?
 
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I guess your in the bb. I would fold this preflop.

This hand has almost no sd value.


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1) Yes, I was in the bb

2) I'm not sure if Q8o or Q9o should be my cutoff for defending in the bb

3) I wasn't planning on going any further than the flop unless I improved.

jt1 12-29-2005 04:50 AM

Re: anyone slowplay this?
 
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if you believe you have the best hand do you make more money to raise now or just call and hope he continues betting a worse hand?


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That was my question. Looking back at it, the only value in this play that I can see is if Villain will almost always auto-call a checkraise like this, but would never bet the turn without the goods.

edit: Also, I'll be able to fold the turn UI if I'm capped or raised on the turn.

jt1 12-29-2005 05:03 AM

Re: anyone slowplay this?
 
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Q/8 is not a great hand to be defending your blind with.

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It may not be great, but is it slightly +ev? Yes I know, either way, we're talking pennies, here, but do you have any evidence or expert testimoney claiming it's -ev? What is your cutoff Queen high hand that you defend with?

thirddan 12-29-2005 05:08 AM

Re: anyone slowplay this?
 
i think defending here is ok...and i still prefer a more passive line given the board and your hand...

shant 12-29-2005 05:10 AM

Re: anyone slowplay this?
 
[ QUOTE ]
thirddan
Not Named Dan

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That's good.


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