I just give up on AT
 

SB: 50/8 over 110
BB: 50/20 over 120
BT: only a couple of orbits but he's been tight so far

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (4 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds

Re: I just give up on AT
 

Nice hand.

Re: I just give up on AT
 

Looks good. A lot of your outs are tainted and the pot's not too big.

Re: I just give up on AT
 

You guys don't think we have the best hand on this flop a decent amount of the time? Is it because of the tight coldcaller? I'd bet it without a better read on the button.

Re: I just give up on AT
 

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You guys don't think we have the best hand on this flop a decent amount of the time?

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I think we have the best hand here a large percentage of the time as well, although lately I have been looking to find more spots to check the flop instead of making a continuation bet 100% of the time. It is 4 handed with a tight coldcaller. So basically all I can say is that I think its close either way.

Re: I just give up on AT
 

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You guys don't think we have the best hand on this flop a decent amount of the time?

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I think we have the best hand here a large percentage of the time as well, although lately I have been looking to find more spots to check the flop instead of making a continuation bet 100% of the time. It is 4 handed with a tight coldcaller. So basically all I can say is that I think its close either way.

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Lately I've been looking for more flops to bet 4 handed and more flops to check 3 handed when I miss.

Re: I just give up on AT
 

bet the flop since we are often ahead here. we dont want to give free cards or get lead into on the turn. folding button is a huge plus. easy fold to a raise.

Re: I just give up on AT
 

Bet this flop!!

It contains no flush draws.

It contains only 1 broadway card and it's the 2nd crappiest to boot.

It contains no realistic OESD and only a remote chance of a wheel gutshot.

Basically, there are a lot more reasons for your opponents to fold to your flop bet then to call it.

If you are ever going to fire into 3 opponents on a flop that missed you then this is the flop to do it on. Fire again on the turn if it's HU.

Re: I just give up on AT
 

not betting this flop makes me want to vomit... its possibly the worst mistake you can make

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not betting this flop makes me want to vomit... its possibly the worst mistake you can make

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I don't think it's that bad. As a matter of fact I don't think it's bad at all