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skiier04 09-13-2005 07:46 AM

Am I completely crazy???
 
Seat 1: Smitty74 (5418 in chips)
Seat 2: bunky619 (18528 in chips)
Seat 3: MYBONNIE (3531 in chips)
Seat 4: skiier04 (12270 in chips)
Seat 5: Crock65 (23303 in chips)
Seat 6: trijr (17158 in chips)
Seat 7: KKKKK (6281 in chips)
Seat 8: IainMcDonald (8311 in chips)
Seat 9: toymark (23452 in chips)
Smitty74: posts the ante 25
bunky619: posts the ante 25
MYBONNIE: posts the ante 25
skiier04: posts the ante 25
Crock65: posts the ante 25
trijr: posts the ante 25
KKKKK: posts the ante 25
IainMcDonald: posts the ante 25
toymark: posts the ante 25
KKKKK: posts small blind 200
IainMcDonald: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to skiier04 [As Kc]
toymark: folds
Smitty74: folds
bunky619: folds
MYBONNIE: folds
skiier04: raises 1200 to 1600
Crock65: calls 1600
trijr: folds
KKKKK: folds
IainMcDonald: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ac Ah Ac]
skiier04: bets 2000



Obviously he didnt call me raise with an ace so I figured a pocket pair was most likely and I would almost certinaly be raised by a mid-high pokerpair here it was only $10 buyin

Exitonly 09-13-2005 07:50 AM

Re: Am I completely crazy???
 
a cheeck there looks WAY more suspicious than a bet does.

diebitter 09-13-2005 07:51 AM

Re: Am I completely crazy???
 
check it back to him or minbet, depending on how you've been playing already, and hope he bets/calls/raises. If he does, just call him, if he doesn't, bet him for the smallest you think he'll call back with on the turn/river.

This is a chip extraction excercise, but if you're really lucky, he'll have KK/QQ/JJ/TT, and get a set on the turn.

37offsuit 09-13-2005 08:04 AM

Re: Am I completely crazy???
 
This is the best play, in my opinion. You raised preflop, so he's putting you on a hand here. Thing is, if you had Ax, KK or maybe even QQ you'd look to trap. Your play looks like a medium pocket pair and the only way you're getting more chips out of this is if he has a medium - high pocket pair (TT or above???). He might be able to put you on KQs-JTs as well, so if he is in the lower range of pocket pairs, a K or Q will kill your action later anyway.

Since you bet right out, he may try to represent the A assuming that you can't have it (who flops quad A's and bets right out?) as well.

Exitonly 09-13-2005 08:10 AM

Re: Am I completely crazy???
 
you could probably suck a bet out of him if he has a middle pair if you check the whole way....but once you raise he's probably gone.

but i think the better approach is to bet out and hope he makes a move on you, which he'll do often enough to make this better IMO.

Rduke55 09-13-2005 11:15 AM

Re: Am I completely crazy???
 
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This is a chip extraction excercise, but if you're really lucky, he'll have KK/QQ/JJ/TT, and get a set on the turn.

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Why would a set improve his hand? If he had KK he's got aces full of kings. If he hits another K he's still got aces full of kings.

gobboboy 09-13-2005 12:12 PM

Re: Am I completely crazy???
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

This is a chip extraction excercise, but if you're really lucky, he'll have KK/QQ/JJ/TT, and get a set on the turn.

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Why would a set improve his hand? If he had KK he's got aces full of kings. If he hits another K he's still got aces full of kings.

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No, because then he'll have 2 sets. Obviously.

hurlyburly 09-13-2005 12:18 PM

Re: Am I completely crazy???
 
A check might look suspicious, but checking and making a min bet on the turn might look like a small PP/KQ type hand checking for the ace. At least attempt to masquerade that you are putting in a blocking bet.

I think you're better off checking to the river if you have to, especially at the lower buyins. You did get some good value PF, but the 5xbb flop bet is a bit insane.

nath 09-13-2005 04:11 PM

Re: Am I completely crazy???
 
It's fine if 2k is close to a standard continuation bet at this level / pot size. The main thing is not to do anything that looks too suspicious.
(A minbet qualifies as suspicious. A check less so, since you may just be scared of the trip aces. I like the bet.)

adanthar 09-13-2005 04:15 PM

Re: Am I completely crazy???
 
Yes, for playing on a site where you can flop two aces of clubs. Otherwise, no.


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